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  •  Chained cpi is coming. (7+ / 0-)

    Rs will only support this if they can cause pain to Dems and make Obama look bad.  

    The Southern Rs are driven by racism underneath this.  We are seeing a split between Northern and Southern Rs in the vote yesterday.

    I suspect that Big Business will make demands on Rs to agree to a deal, and may influence some Northern Rs.  But the South is working on destroying our nation, and the Koch Brothers will finance that destruction.

    It wil take massive financial support by Wall Street and others to get Northern Rs to vote for any deal.  

    Big Business has to decide if they want to be ruled by the Koch Brothers libertarian/Bircherism.  

    I think they do not.  So a class collaborationist coalition between Obama, Wall Street, most Dems, and Northern Rs could pass a deal that most progressives will hate, but that does not gut the social welfare state.    

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    by TomP on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 09:34:46 AM PST

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    •  unless you think (0+ / 0-)

      those Northern Republicans could be persuaded by Big Business to vote for a clean debt ceiling increase, incur the wrath of their Tea Party base that would follow, and deal with a primary challenge, then we're looking at negotiations.

      And yeah, I think chained CPI is probably the bargaining chip the WH likes best and would be willing to offer up first.

      "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin

      by CaptUnderpants on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 09:42:55 AM PST

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    •  chained CPI is slow death for Social Security. (1+ / 0-)
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      It's another step in dismantling the social safety net. It's a signal that the Dems have jumped the shark.

      •  I think it is a bad thing. I would not go so far (0+ / 0-)

        as to portray it as you do.  Of course, there's always raising the medicare age.  Any deal to avoid default will cost dearly.  All the things they will deamnd will be terrible.  We will see if public pressure matters.

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        by TomP on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 10:12:49 AM PST

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    •  Chained CPI (0+ / 0-)

      and I would add a raise in medicare age as well.  I'm not sure what they will do with medicaid but I would be worried about that as well.

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