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    In Illinois we must have a FOID card or Firearm Owners Id.  To obtain this card the state police run a criminal background check and a mental health check.  If a citizen in Illinois commits a felony or violent misdemeanor the card is taken along with any weapons.  I sold a Kimber 1911 to someone I had never met last week.  In order to sell it I have to fill out a form with his name, address, FOID card number, and Expiration date.  I know that if he has his FOID card he has cleared his background check and has no history of mental illness as far as the state can determine.  The problem with much gun crime up here in Chicago is that most of the criminals are... well... criminals.  They do not have an FOID card and have obtained those weapons through illegal channels.  The paperwork I fill out does not need to be turned into anyone, but I must keep it for 20 years.  If that weapon is ever used in a crime they will come to me at which point I show them the paperwork proving that I no longer own that weapon.  At this point the police can follow the paper trail to find the owner of the weapon.  I guess my thought is that with a system like this you do not need gun registration or private background checks.  The FOID card is the background check.  I saw you posted a comment on my 2nd amendment post, you may think I am some crazy militia guy, but believe it or not most of us agree with you regarding having weapons in the hands of mentally ill or dangerous people.  

    •  In other words (0+ / 0-)

      you are just interested in putting as many guns as you can, "out there" --- with no liability for any damage they might do once out of your hands.

      If that weapon is ever used in a crime they will come to me at which point I show them the paperwork proving that I no longer own that weapon.
      Good for you, Mr. Patriot.

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