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  •  how much of it is race? (10+ / 0-)

    When I see these people talk their talk, it makes them seem like they have met the world in the process of being born these last 50 years (the one where people judge and are judged on content of character and not what they look like) and they just do NOT want to live in that world. The lion's share of their antipathy seems like it's racial... hence the president's election and now re-election has caused them to double & triple down on their particular brand of lunacy. They despise deviation of all kinds from white straight maleness (gays & women are high on their abuse list), but it really does sound like the idea of empowered African-descended folks is the thing that just makes them apoplectic and enraged like no other. I don't call them conservatives; I call them what they are: Authoritarians.

    I've been thinking that the last 160+ years of American history represent a Civil Cold War between people that wished the South had won and those that are comfortable with the result as it happened. This goes a long way towards the proliferation of guns in the US, and why so many of those guns are in white suburban neighborhoods where, last I checked anyway, there are no invading hordes of pillaging brown people appearing on the distant horizon. Yet the people that live in those communities feel the need to stockpile weapons like Hannibal himself is just outside the city limits at all times with battalions of his savages in tow ready to rape the women and torch the town.

    These Bircher/Teabagger types just seem like the vocal vanguard of that side right now -- the one that seems hellbent on refighting the Civil War in their minds -- but they've existed since 1865 and I don't see how you curtail the pernicious, destructive influence they wield unless you move them all to Texas and let them secede. Maybe we can work out a trade and California can get Austin and we can let them have Orange County.

    "Some of you are going to die... martyrs, of course, to the Freedom that I will provide!"

    by emperor nobody on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 03:24:49 AM PST

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    •  "Authoritarians" -- yes, indeed. (8+ / 0-)

      That applies equally for Business and Bircher Republicans.

      You see that with Romney and his "47%" speech. All through the campaign he echos the themes of Thatcherism in England, including demonizing unions and blaming schools as training camps for Leftist perversity.

      Racist hatred seems to have been the key to Romney getting the large majority of White votes. It certainly wasn't the Obama/Eisenhower policy system that had come out of the White House.

      For a brighter side to matters, what about 2016 when the Democrats will likely not be running a Black guy ??? The racist propaganda vaporizes and what do they have to go on?

      "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

      by bontemps2012 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 05:50:34 AM PST

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      •  Agreed (2+ / 0-)
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        Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Business Republicans are much better. They just couch their language in a little bit more polite terms so soccermom types won't be embarrassed to tell the neighbors they vote for them. But, the economic policies are pretty much the same between the two. i.e., union busting, reducing unemployment insurance, no safety regulations in the workplace, and so on.

        Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

        by Dirtandiron on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:08:57 AM PST

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        •  Its all about economics (2+ / 0-)
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          That's the real division between the two parties.  Business Republicans just use the social stuff as a smoke screen to get working class voters to elect people who work against their economic interests.

          There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

          by slothlax on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 11:39:12 AM PST

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        •  Research "Thatcherism." (1+ / 0-)
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          That's what they are modelling these days.

          Hatred of unions is a calling card. If they can sink somebody's battleship, then down it goes.

          (Yes, the "General Belgrano" was a cruiser. D'oh.)

          "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

          by bontemps2012 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 05:19:41 PM PST

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    •  It expresses racially (2+ / 0-)
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      in the US because of our racial history, but authoritarianism is found in about 25% of the population, everywhere. In racially homogeneous places it expresses through religion, or tribally. But it always finds a way to poke up its ugly head, unless the other 75% take it seriously and are on their guard against it.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 12:45:32 PM PST

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