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  •  Ricochet - gun registration isn't going to pass (0+ / 0-)

    in the 113th Congress, that's a line in the sand for gun advocates. We may see an assault weapons and large magazine ban (only on new sales), some improvement on the private sale exemption from background checks (often mistakenly termed "the gun show loophole"), and a better background check system. If we got all of that past the House, and signed into law, it would be a huge win for gun control. However, I am not sure we can pass all of that.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 07:04:27 AM PST

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    •  Gotta start somewhere (3+ / 0-)
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      Let's get legislation passed first that everybody seems to be in favor of (no new assault weapons and large magazines - something like 74% of gun owners are OK with that).  Background checks also seem to be heavily favored, including the gun show "loophole" closure, so go for that.  Extended waiting periods for a THOROUGH background check - up to 30 days even - a lot of people don't seem to mind that either.  It's the ones who can't pass an intensive background check that are against it - the very people that we need to use it for.  

      As far as I'm concerned, those who doth protest too much, are probably the people mostly likely to be denied.  

      If you're an honest person, with nothing to hide, there's no reason to not want a thorough check before you get your permit, as long as the same applies to all applicants.  It's the only fair way.  

      At the same time, if we can get those 3 things, we really need to work on enforcing the laws already on the books against people who use guns in a crime or to terrorize others - get busted for domestic abuse and you have a gun in the house?  Too bad, it gets taken.  After you pass anger management, get a mental health assessment, etc. you can apply to get your gun back, as if it was a new gun and go through the process above.  

      If you inherit guns from a relative (hunters and others), and the deceased had a permit or hunting licenses, even if their guns were not registered, the heir needs to go get their own permit or licenses and register them.  No free passing down of guns.  I did this with my dad's 3 guns - he had a permit and 2 of them were registered with the county.  I didn't get a permit, but I did register them (all 3) in my own name, so they know I have them in my house.  Registration is easy in Florida, getting a permit is also relatively easy, but I don't want one.  I don't intend to carry them around or have them in my car like dad did.  I might take them to a gun buy back (they're .38s, not Glocks or anything like that), but I'd want to be damn sure they were not re-sold with my name still linked to them.  

      It will take time, but eventually we'd get a lot of guns off the street being held by the angry and unstable.  Start gun & high cap magazine buy backs - some people, no matter how pro-gun they are, are willing to do this - recent events that triggered some towns to do buy backs have had pretty positive results.

      A small step is better than none at all.  Kind of like the ACA - can't get 100% public option, but what we have is a start and it's better than nothing.  As time passes, it will be tweaked until I think we will finally actually have Medicare for All.  Same thing with gun registration - start somewhere and eventually, it will cover everything.  

      "Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." - Barack Obama

      by Ricochet67 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:29:19 AM PST

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      •  I agree we should start with what we can get (2+ / 0-)
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        and I think your list has the right elements. However, we aren't going to have national gun registration pass in this Congress, but states can.  

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:43:05 AM PST

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