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  •  my intent is not to romanticize the new deal... (3+ / 0-)
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    shaharazade, joanneleon, aliasalias

    or to point to a "golden age" when democrats were democrats and things were good(tm).

    my intent is to show that there has been a deal that was struck between the democrats and a constituency and that they are now at the point of breaking that deal in a way that will be impossible for their constituency to ignore because it will be painful for that constituency.  when they feel the pain, they are going to be looking for who caused it and while i'm sure that the corpodems will be happy to piss on their legs and tell them that it's raining, they will probably not go for that.

    there are lots of democrats on this site that are smart enough to figure these things out.  it's up to us to make the party do the right thing for its traditional constituency or truthfully stand up and say that we are abandoning them.

    i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

    by joe shikspack on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 08:56:49 AM PST

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    •  And it's "traditional constituency" is (2+ / 0-)
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      puakev, tardis10

      who?  White working class people, or the multiracial working class that the Democratic party long treated as second class citizens, at best?  I suggest that an uncritical discourse organized around the benefits of a Herrenvolk democracy is not the path forward in this discussion.

      •  the common man (1+ / 0-)
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        aliasalias

        the group of its stated ambitions.  the marquee group.

        parties are judged on the coincidence of their rhetoric and their actions as you are doing above.  that is what i am doing as well.

        trust me, i have not for a moment thought of the democratic party as some paragon of perfection.  your attempt to point out that the democratic party is imperfect is unnecessary.

        the question is, do you want to make them do the right thing or do you want to spend time explaining that they have always been a bunch of gas bags and liars, they have rarely done the right thing for everybody and we can't really expect any better out of them - or do you want to step up and do something about it?

        are you a democrat?  do you vote for democrats?  why are you participating in this racist, flawed institution if you have such a clear-eyed view of their many faults?  because it's always been that way and doggone it, you like it like that?

        i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

        by joe shikspack on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 09:44:38 AM PST

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