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  •  The short, brutal answer to your question is (2+ / 0-)
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    joe shikspack, Cassiodorus

    yes.

    As your own diary points out, US political parties are capable of redefining themselves to the point of transforming themselves into their opposite. The Democrats began as the party of slavery. The Republicans began as the party of Federal activism via limiting the expansion of slavery and the program of internal improvements. In the present, they have effectively become the opposite of what they began as.

    The question isn't whether one can call oneself a Democrat while repudiating what the Democratic Party has stood for since FDR. The question is whether such folks will be be allowed to redefine the party in their own image.

    Nothing human is alien to me.

    by WB Reeves on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 11:25:12 AM PST

    •  yep and now they're both the party of slavery... (4+ / 0-)
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      WB Reeves, aliasalias, priceman, triv33

      debt slavery, wage slavery.

      on the other hand, there is the party and there are the rank and file members of it.  i hope that the latter wake up and smell the bs.

      i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

      by joe shikspack on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 11:35:26 AM PST

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    •  Not if you care about what redefined (D) party... (1+ / 0-)
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      joe shikspack

      for the better. The New Deal Democratic platform changed everything and everyone runs around pretending they respect it and that it's why they are a Democrat which is already redefined thanks to the moves towards civil rights that caused most AA to vote for Democrats instead of Republicans who used to be the abolitionists pro civil rights party as you say.

      If people want to redefine the party in their own image let them run on their own platform(in fact that's the rule and how it was done), but no, you can't excuse cuts to SS and then claim you are inspired by the New Deal or Great Society because "Obama is teh awesome."

      I don't negotiate grand bargains with deficit terrorists!

      by priceman on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 03:48:32 PM PST

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