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  •  Bummer. No poetry. (7+ / 0-)

    So many who excelled, too:  W.H. Auden, James Baldwin, Allen Ginsberg,  Langston Hughes, June Jordan, William Meredith, James Merrill, Honor Moore, Frank O'Hara, Adrienne Rich, May Swenson, Walt Whitman, Gertrude Stein, H.D., Arthur Rimbaud, Adrienne Rich, Hart Crane, Elizabeth Bishop, John Ashbery...on and on....

    I'm thinking that Moby Dick's appearance on the list is probably to suggest an exploration of the relationship between Ishmael and Queequeg, no?

    •  More than likely (4+ / 0-)

      Although when I wrote my Moby-Dick Books that Changed My Life diary, I was gently chided for it by Brecht

      I don't know if Melville intended an undercurrent (1+ / 0-)

      of gayness between I and Q; it seems unlikely, as he makes no play with it, he makes no use of such a current, if it's there. But I have read that it was perfectly normal in the US, in the 1700s and on into the 1800s, for two men travelling together to share a bed and think nothing of it.

      -7.75, -8.10; Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Dave in Northridge on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:51:43 AM PST

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      •  I didn't mean that as chiding: though you do say (1+ / 0-)
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        "gently"; and you're writing with color and care, so your point stands. Perhaps now I'm chiding again. I think I just enjoy a more vigorous style of debate than is common in R&BLers diaries.

        I also agree with you and Buckeye54, above, about To Kill a Mockingbird's lack of explicit or implied homosexuality.

        As you say in your diary, "Ambitious and maybe too far-reaching (Moby-Dick? The Bostonians?)"

        The Bostonians does have Olive who is in love with Verena and crushed by the fear of losing Olive to Basil. There must be some interesting articles out there on this love triangle.

        My guess is that Henry James was exploring aspects of his own sexuality, and not liking what he found there. But his sexuality was pretty complicated. Perhaps his cruel handling of Olive is just part of his major intent, to satirize America.

        To get back to your statement, as you can see from two of my examples, I found the list a bit far-reaching in places. But I like that it reaches a little. Billy Budd is a good choice, Melville certainly intended that subtext.

        Brideshead Revisited? I think, when Charles tracks Sebastian down in Morocco, he finds him with a male lover. I'm not sure. But if so, that's a matter of a few pages. Surely it made the list because of the sense, throughout the book, that Charles is somewhat in love with Sebastian.

        Thanks for the diary, Dave in Northridge. Interesting list.

        "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

        by Brecht on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:14:43 PM PST

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    •  Oh, and Jimmy Schuyler (4+ / 0-)

      James McCourt's friend, and the model for at least some of the stuff in Time Remaining

      -7.75, -8.10; Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Dave in Northridge on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:53:12 AM PST

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