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  •  Corbett is losing Central PA voters (5+ / 0-)

    That's why he's polling poorly.

    The Penn State fiasco and his non-involvement in Sandusky's prosecution have left a bad taste in people's mouths in a normally dull, gray, conservative portion of the state.

    He's being hammered by the Harrisburg Patriot, for God's sake. That paper is usually as useless as they come.

    Of course he's hated in Philly and surrounding burbs for his voter suppression efforts.  He couldn't even suppress votes competently.

    I agree with the comments above re Sestak. On paper and in pictures he looks great, as a candidate he sucks.  He did come close against the sociopath Toomey but his campaign generally sucked.   He never got Pennsylvanians outside of Philly and the burbs to really know who he was.

    Sadly PA Dems have a history of fielding bad candidates.  Casey is the exception due to his name recognition.  If he ran Corbett would be toast.

    •  Don't you think that had something to do with (1+ / 0-)
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      Toomey's tremendous funding advantage?

      He never got Pennsylvanians outside of Philly and the burbs to really know who he was.
      I don't get this idea that Sestak was a bad candidate. PA voters didn't consider Toomey a sociopath, and he ran a terrific campaign. That does not mean Sestak - who almost beat Toomey - ran a bad campaign and "sucks."

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:45:07 AM PST

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      •  Toomey did have a lot of Citizen's United money (3+ / 0-)
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        and that pushed him over the top by depressing what should have been an overwhelming pro-Sestak vote in Philly and the surrounding counties. Sestak could and should have overcome this by defining Toomey as the nut case he is. He didn't do that.  Nor did he define himself.  He's not constitutionally  (small c) suited to campaigning. He's stiff and somewhat arrogant.

        •  Nah (3+ / 0-)
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          it was just 2010, it was a pro-GOP wave.  Sestak was handicapped and not much he could do, heck he won Philly by the same vote margin as casey in 2006 or Rendell in 2002.  

          The Burbs just swung hard right in 2010's, but they've since swung back to normal.  Bucks and Chester are probably a bit more GOP now than 10 years ago, but MontCo is the key for the future.

          "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

          by rdw72777 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:33:56 AM PST

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    •  Sestak > Casey (3+ / 0-)
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      Let's be honest here, Casey isn't a great candidate, he coasts on his last name.  Sestak ran a better campaign in 2010 than Casey has ever run in any of his races.

      Dems don't need a miracle to take down Corbett, just slightly-above average events (including the candidate selection) for 2014.  When you look at how dreadful 2010 was the baseline for improvement in 2014 paints a pretty clear picture.  

      "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

      by rdw72777 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:51:22 AM PST

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      •  Nail on the head (2+ / 0-)
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        Even today most Pennsylvanians wouldn't rate Toomey badly.  He's toned himself down quite a bit.  Only those truly in the know recall him as the Club for growth guy and all his past.

        Toomey/Sestak was actually 2 pretty good candidates/campaigns, but no one was paying attention because it was a wave.  

        I remember election night actually thinking Sestak had eeked it out, then those York/Lancaster results kept coming in at 70%+ for Corbett and realizing Sestak couldn't overcome that.

        "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

        by rdw72777 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:53:39 AM PST

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      •  Casey does coast on his name recognition (3+ / 0-)
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        But the operative word is "coast." He's still got a plaintive, down-to-earth manner that appeals to many conservative Pennsylvanians. He hasn't faced a real challenge which would require him to break that out. Tom Smith gave him a little concern towards the end but Casey still won without (I think) planting a single yard sign in all of Delaware, Montgomery and Philadelphia Counties, or even bothering to campaign in the suburbs.  One "Tea Party Tom" commercial in those areas did the trick for Casey.

        •  Not sure I understand the point (0+ / 0-)

          Casey is just not a great candidate.  take away his last name and I doubt he ever wins an election after high school.  He's exceedingly unremarkable and being a moderate Dem from Scranton wouldn't have gotten him far.

          "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

          by rdw72777 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:40:29 AM PST

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          •  I just don't think PA voters think he's (1+ / 0-)
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            as bad a candidate as you do.  He projects trustworthiness more than any other candidate I've seen in PA for a long time.  He has no personality but that doesn't matter to Pennsylvanians.

            •  Youre absolutely right (2+ / 0-)
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              No doubt PA will elect him until he dies (and since he's still relatively young that could be a long time).  

              "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

              by rdw72777 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:53:26 AM PST

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    •  Corbett's funding of the Penn State litigation (3+ / 0-)
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      is the low point of a governor whose had enough failures to put together a feature-length lowlight film.  As opposed to a highlight film, of course.

      This litigation will end badly.  The Plaintiffs will lose on summary judgment.   Applying Corbett's high standards to this outcome, he'll considered it a victory if he can keep the case alive beyond election day.

      As has been noted by other posters here, there is a lot of mud to be slung at Corbett in his campaign finance history with Sandusky's non-profit employer, thereby raising questions about why Sandusky wasn't prosecuted earlier in this case.  Democrats shold have a field day with this.

      Electin failures can occur anywhere.  WI, MI, OH, my beloved 4th District in Kentucky.  But PA sure got a doozy with Corbett.

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