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  •  I'm not pro nuke (1+ / 0-)
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    Capt Morgan

    and this diary wasn't a hit piece.   I'm searching for answers of how to replace 300,000 megawatts of dirty coal energy in the US, day in day out. And nukes deserve discussion if only because they're carbon free.

    The diary provided important facts about the German energy situation.  Hopefully we can draw from their lessons so our own transition goes smoother.

    •  nukes are not carbon-free (2+ / 0-)
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      BYw, Lawrence

      if you account for the entire process, from mining the uranium to disposing of the radwaste.

      Nukes are about the same carbon-footprint as solar.

    •  I didn't say you were pro-nuke. (2+ / 0-)
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      translatorpro, 6412093

      Germany's experience is useful, to us, to an extent.  One useful bit of information is that renewables can be integrated into the grid on a large scale and reduce other forms of electricity generation.

      It also shows us that even a country with limited renewables resources can ramp them up on a large scale.

      Not mentioned in this diary at all, however, is the fact that the renewables resources in the U.S. are far superior to those in Germany.

      For example, Germany is smaller than Texas, has 3 times the population of Texas, yet has poorer renewables resources than Texas.  So, if Germany can ramp up to 25% electricity production from renewables without major issues, it will be far easier technically for Texas to ramp up to higher levels of renewables.

      If you want to dig deep into the potential of renewables in the U.S., I wrote a diary about just that, based on a recent NREL study, which pretty clearly shows that renewables can fairly easily replace all other forms of electricity production in the U.S.:

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 02:09:19 AM PST

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      •  In the Northwest (2+ / 0-)
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        US, we had a record recently, when wind pumped 4000 megawatts into the regional power grid.  
        A few hours later, however, there were only a few MW of wind available.

        I complained that showed  how capricious wind power is.  But other commentors pointed out it also showed how large swings in wind power can be easily integrated into energy supplies.  So I learned something too.

        However the NW USA power grid also has several massive base load energy sources; big hydroelectric dams, an 1100 mw nuke, and coal burning power plants in Wyoming.  I'd like to see that coal power replaced or cleaned up, but otherwise, this example also illustrates how less-environmentally beneficial power sources still play an important role in energy generation, along wind and solar.

        Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

        by 6412093 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 12:12:36 PM PST

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        •  The NW U.S. should be able to ramp up to high (1+ / 0-)
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          levels of renewables pretty easily without facing intermittency issues.  There's tons of hydro, which provides base load and is flexible to an extent.

          Furthermore, if ever there was prime pumped hydro storage country, it is in the NW U.S.

          "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

          by Lawrence on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 03:16:56 PM PST

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