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  •  Tulsa only has 400K population (5+ / 0-)

    Wow!  That is a lot of murders.

    And there was another quadruple murder in 1992?

    Last time I was there I was dragged to the Oral Roberts University.

    Tulsa had lots more deaths once.

    I hope they find their way.

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    by Shockwave on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 09:48:08 PM PST

    •  Tulsa had 48 murders last year (5+ / 0-)

      That was a low, we usually run around 70.

      Making up for lost time, apparently.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 09:50:31 PM PST

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      •  Murders do not account for all the shooting... (2+ / 0-)
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        twigg, hnichols

        any idea how many shootings and gun-related crimes there might have been in total?

        •  In Tulsa? (2+ / 0-)
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          WakeUpNeo, hnichols

          No idea, but it would probably run into thousands.

          This article is pretty detailed. Curiously, gun crime has reduced, a fact Police put down to a concerted effort to remove guns from the streets.

          Imagine that! Fewer guns equals less gun crime. They must be lying because that is not what I keep being told by both the NRA and some here!

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          Who is twigg?

          by twigg on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:51:38 AM PST

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          •  There is a sadly scary term in that article (2+ / 0-)
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            that is reflected by happenings in towns and cities across America --- "Pockets of gun-related crimes..."

            ...Pockets of gun-related crimes are found in north, east and south Tulsa.

            Police wrote 99 to 138 firearm-related crime reports per square mile in each of the seven areas between August 2009 and July 2012. The firearm-related crimes included assault, robbery and homicide. Police write a report for each victim affected by a crime, and the way a crime is classified in a report may change during an investigation...

            (emphasis added)

            Truly chilling, isn't it?
            •  Even more stark (2+ / 0-)
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              WakeUpNeo, hnichols

              is that the red, hotspot area in South Tulsa is ONE intersection and the four blocks that surround it .... that is four square blocks, not sixteen.

              It is in the wealthiest part of town.

              I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
              but I fear we will remain Democrats.

              Who is twigg?

              by twigg on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:00:12 AM PST

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              •  Yup. Everybody here should see the article and map (2+ / 0-)
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                twigg, hnichols

                and take a look at the numbers. The color-coded gun crime density map makes me think of those dangerous storm-tracking maps posted by weatherdude and others --- and the photo of kids playing at the center of one of the worst of the "pockets" reminds vividly just how sickening this all really is.

                Thank you, twigg, for that link. Wish you could import that map for all to see.

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