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  •  Actually, there are many cases where making (27+ / 0-)

    a choice to put more money in your pocket is immoral, assuming that the choice has a deleterious affect on other people. That's what morality about, and why the capitalist system, as implemented today, in fact encourages people running and working in enterprises to collectively exhibit the behavior of at the very least a sociopath, if not a psychopath, in society.

    Certainly employers who balance employee's needs and profits more equitably are on greater moral standing than those that do not.

    Of course, the best solution is to provide regulations that require ALL employers to operate on the same level of higher morals/ethics. Then, exploiting employees for profit would not be a competitive advantage.

    The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

    by Words In Action on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 08:42:25 AM PST

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    •  I don't know what 'morality' is (2+ / 0-)
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      I just know what 'the law' is.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
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      by Sparhawk on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 09:39:58 AM PST

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      •  "... the law is a ass -- a idiot." n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything even remotely true." -- H. Simpson

        by midnight lurker on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:39:21 PM PST

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      •  "morality" is what stops a person from running (1+ / 0-)
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        down and killing the person that just cut them off in traffic even if they could find a legal loophole that would make it perfectly legal to do so.  "morality" is what stops someone from luring you into a dark alley, killing you, throwing down a weapon by your body, and taking all your stuff.  But as you don't recognize the existence of "right" and "wrong", just what the law says at least hopefully the risk of getting caught will be enough to prevent you from doing either of those things.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 01:22:41 AM PST

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        •  Sometimes. (1+ / 0-)
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          In the cases you describe though it's probably the law that stops many of them (since there likely isn't a legal loophole for the road rage case and, if found and used, it would quickly be legislated away).

          Most people just don't even think of doing these things.

          For example, why would I bother to run down and kill a person that cut me off in traffic? Morality has nothing to do with my decision not to do that -- it just isn't worth my time and trouble. If I did think to do it, morality would then enter into it, but it's never occurred to me to do this.

          (Besides, there are much more fun ways to retaliate if you do bother to catch up with the person - death is so final and just doesn't make a good story. If the person dies, well, they are dead and don't care -- if they end up feeling like a fool, that annoys them for at least a few hours.)

          However, for those that do think of doing these things, I think it's likely law that stops many of them. Some of the remaining ones are stopped by fear of immediate retaliation (street justice) as the victim may be armed, stronger, or more skilled than the psychopathic perpetrator.

      •  We already established that, I think. (0+ / 0-)

        Morality is about how we treat each other. At it's base is the golden rule. That much, everyone pretty much agrees upon, at least in theory. What people do in practice, especially in business, is something else.

        The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

        by Words In Action on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 02:04:37 PM PST

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