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  •  Deeper than that (5+ / 0-)

    Forget rape even, my own friends will call women sluts, whores, and bitches when they spurn their advances.  They also call women sluts, whores, and bitches when they sleep with them.  And these are people I consider rather liberal.

    There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

    by slothlax on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 03:46:49 PM PST

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    •  Do you have any ideas about (11+ / 0-)

      how to discourage that behavior?

      It's discouraging and frustrating to read what you just wrote, but I know it's true.  I also know that any guy who interrupts with a "dude, that's not cool" will be mocked and ridiculed.

      My question is, how do men who demean women whether or not they put out ever expect to have a healthy relationship with a woman?  Is this something they grow out of?  I don't think you can ever really let go of an attitude like that.

      Violence aside, it makes me despair for love.  Men who think of women solely as a vessel for sex will never love someone.

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      by coquiero on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:11:13 PM PST

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      •  I got them to stop saying faggot (6+ / 0-)

        That was about ten years ago, but that was pretty easy since my friends aren't actually homophobes, so it was much easier for shame to get them to stop.

        I've pointed out the hypocrisy of calling a woman a slut for sleeping around but admiring a man for doing the same.  They are aware of it, they censor themselves around me a bit, but the attitude is too knee jerk and encouraged by wider society.  I still speak up from time to time, but I think being single has a lot to do with it.  I never hear that kind of language from my married friends.

        There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

        by slothlax on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 05:23:23 PM PST

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    •  Ugh (4+ / 0-)

      Sounds like you need nicer friends. Did you let them know their language offends you?

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