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  •  We're not all going to die. (7+ / 0-)

    And very few people actually claim anything of the sort.  Still, the odds are that a great many people will die, many times more than we're prepared for and far more than enough to justify treating this issue with at least as much intensity as we would a major war.

    "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

    by quillsinister on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:02:44 PM PST

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    •  Long before the shit really hits the fan (13+ / 0-)

      there will be major wars over scarce resources, like water and arable land. Then we will be in the position of trying to fix the planet in the middle of wartime.

      I try to be optimistic, I really do.  But nothing in my lifetime has really encouraged optimism.  Men and nations will do the right thing when all other options are exhausted.

      The sleep of reason brings forth monsters. --Goya

      by MadScientist on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:23:33 PM PST

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      •  Agreed. (5+ / 0-)

        My point was to convey that, even if we don't actually follow the Neanderthal into the long dark night of extinction, there is still a vast spectrum of suck that we can and likely will experience.  Too many people seem to think that, so long as some humans are left standing at the end, then it's all good.

        Thresholds interest me; how people can be moved to outrage and action over certain things while remaining indifferent to others.  We lost our collective shit and launched a multi-trillion dollar war because a few crazy people crashed some planes and caused a few thousand deaths, yet a freaking mass extinction event is met with a resounding "meh."  By the same token, we consider the Holocaust to be one of the greatest crimes in human history, and would surely support extraordinary measures to avoid a second one, but somehow the deaths we expect from climate change count for less, even though they will be numerically far greater.

        I'm reasonably certain we won't actually become extinct (though I could be mistaken), but even if this just results in the equivalent of a few dozen Holocausts, several regional wars for diminishing resources and a few centuries of chaos like after the collapse of the Roman Empire, that's still pretty fucking bad.  More than sufficient cause to approach this as the most important issue of our time.

        But we only have outrage for far lesser issues, it seems.

        "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

        by quillsinister on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:48:37 PM PST

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