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  •  hang in there (17+ / 0-)

    i don't know if this would help, but whenever i volunteer or work for free somewhere it always leads to people offering me a job.

    i used to take unpaid jobs on low budget independent feature films. mandy.com is where i used to find the "work." i didnt have the $ for film school, but i wanted to learn. after i worked on maybe 5 or 6 projects, people started hiring me for actual money.

    this helps- even if the budget is low and almost noone's getting paid, they still feed cast and crew.

    i throw this out there because they are always filming something, somewhere in nyc. even if it looks like it's nothing special, you never know. i found that even if it looked like a bunch of newbies who were working for free were the cast and crew, there was usually at least a handful of paid people- if they like you, they'll recommend you to people on other projects. most PAs are young film students- i found that being a little older and having a work ethic and not bothering people to read my screenplay (i don't have one) made me an asset. a lot of people i worked w/ really didn't want to work- it was amazing to me. i stood out.

    i don't know if this is anything you'd want to try or not, but i just loved it. and the thing about the low budget indies is there's no union crew- there might be people who get permission from their union to work the non union job. what it means is you get to learn how to do everything. if it were a big budget film w/ union crew, you wouldn't be able to handle any equipment.

    i loved working w/ and for people who had no money, but went ahead anyway w/ their story and vision. i'm not creative, but i like to help creative people.

    so this is completely different from what i used to do, but at one of my jobs right now i'm working part time at a factory. the owners met me at a campaign hq. i think they figured if i worked that hard for free, imagine how i'd work for $.

    i hope things start looking up for you. don't give up. xoxo

    "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

    by thankgodforairamerica on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:56:38 PM PST

    •  lol, not having a screenplay got you a job n/t (4+ / 0-)

      Listen to Netroots Radio or to our pods on Stitcher. "We are but temporary visitors on this planet. The microbes own this place" <- Me

      by yuriwho on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:42:17 PM PST

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    •  this is a really cool idea (2+ / 0-)

      the films I mean.

      if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 09:42:34 PM PST

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      •  here's the website link: (2+ / 0-)
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        mandy.com

        i loved it

        you can find projects everywhere in the world thru mandy.com. some are just for a day or two, and some of the paid work is for shows that last for years.

        there's a fun book- Breaking and Entering: Land Your First Job in Film Production

        it's a great resource, and it's fun to read. i brought it w/ me my first day on a set because it was full of great info. i had read it a bunch of times, but i still wanted to have it w/ me.

        there was someone on the crew who knew even less than i did- some of the language they use on sets is hard to pick up. i thought it would be easier than me trying to keep explaining things. i gave the book to the guyand showed him the glossary. one of the producers waked by and said "hey guys- you already did!"

        it was published in 1997, but i 'm pretty sure it's all still good info- like here's something in the book you'd never know unless you worked on a set: those wooden boxes they have people or things on? those are called apples. or quarter apples. or half apples.

        another thing in the book was to have a kit you bring full of everything you think someone could need in a pinch- one thing i'm sure we won't need is a roll of quarters for payphones! i remember that being on the list. i would bring all the cell phone chargers i could get my hands on.

        the writer said a PA"s job is to say "yes." when people come to you to solve a problem or go get something, you're supposed to say yes, and then get it done, even if you're not sure how to get it done. noone wants to have to talk you into doing something or explain why it needs to be done.

        i almost always said yes. the one time i said no was when they wanted me to try and figure out how to disassemble the lift mechanism in a funeral home back room. that i refused. it turned out i was right- the DP (director of photography- lead camera guy) told me we ddn't need to do it. he could get the effect w/ different camera angles. he agreed w/ me it was stupid to mess w/ the funeral home owner's property like that.

        someday i want to start doing it again- now i'm into working for free on campaigns. people have offered to pay me to do that already, but i like to volunteer my time to people i really want to help. i make enough at my jobs to pay the bills.

        when word got out that i was being offered paid jobs on local campaigns, my friend tried to pay me to keep working for him, but i said no. then he said how about if there's money left over at the end of the campaign? i said no- they he might make spending decisions differently if he were trying to have money left over at the end.

        "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

        by thankgodforairamerica on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 04:21:59 AM PST

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