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  •  11 cents a KWH for new nuclear power (5+ / 0-) very doubtful.  

    A $15 billion, 1000 MW plant, operating 30 years (~250,000 hours) before full rebuild would cost 6 cents a kilowatt hour just to pay its construction costs back without interest.

    •  US EIA 2010 annual outlook (0+ / 0-)

      From 2009 prices.

      2011 Berkeley Nat Lab priced Wind LCOE at 3.3 to 6.5 cents.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 07:19:37 PM PST

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    •  nukes also have huge payrolls (2+ / 0-)
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      and several hundred workers on staff. Nukes need periodic, sometimes annual maintenance that can last for months and employ another 1000 workers.

      Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

      by 6412093 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 08:35:25 PM PST

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      •  Nuke plants actually employ the least amount (2+ / 0-)
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        of workers per produced TwH of any electricity production source.

        If jobs are your main concern, solar is the best.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:20:53 AM PST

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        •  Solar (0+ / 0-)

          including PV will have a lot of installation hours, but not so many day-to-day jobs in plant operation at the utility-sized desert solars  using molten salts, etc.

          I don't have any numbers on the work force in solar parts production, but have seen the 37,000 number for workers in windmill production.

          Jobs are my concern.  When the Trojan nuke was running, it employed 1300, and needed a maintenance crew of 1000 for 3 months a year.  

          Plus nuclear construction takes several years and employs 5-10,000 workers.  That doesn't could workers in parts production, turbines, fabrication shops, and so on.

          And hen Trojan was torn down, it took 500 workers for 2-3 years for the demo work.

          Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

          by 6412093 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 12:37:40 PM PST

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