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  •  If Gov. Skeletor's ratings are plunging this (7+ / 0-)

    low are there candidates from our side shaping up to take him on in 2014? (I assume that's when he's up for election) Because the Republicans are going to pour mountains of cash into retaining Florida which means we'll want to have momentum on our side to beat their money.

    What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

    by ontheleftcoast on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 04:56:27 PM PST

    •  I've heard a lot of positive speculation about (3+ / 0-)

      former Republican Governor Charlie Crist, (sp?)  who is now apparently a Democrat.  In my last post on Rick Scott I asked our Florida Kossacks if Crist was the our best and most progressive shot, but did not get much response.  Perhaps, I just missed it.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:07:57 PM PST

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      •  I don't think Crist is really progressive enough.. (3+ / 0-)
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        for my tastes. Although, I do give him props on education and environmental issues

        But as far as I know, the nomination is his if he wants it.

        I never could figure out how the Sunshine State could have a workable majority of voters in the state who are Democrats but can't seem to find decent [winnable] candidates for office. Somehow, we've got to break this iron grip that the Republicans have on this state.

        I think it's a party leadership problem and we should just clean house; elect all new leaders. Bob Graham would make a decent leader and he probably would attract good progressives. But I doubt he'd be interested.

        Offhand, I can't think of any other Democrat worthy of the job except maybe Grayson or Ted Deutch -- both of which are solidly liberal but need to stay in Congress.

        We've got a lot of work to do.

        "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

        by markthshark on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 06:31:25 PM PST

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        •  Crist is now a Democrat, but (2+ / 0-)
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          he is very much a fiscal conservative, and not close to being a progressive.  Still, he is the best bet to beat Scott, despite Scott's unpopularity.  markthshark is right that Charlie is good on education and environmental issues.  Crist comes from a family of public school teachers, so he is sympathetic towards public education. Also, Charlie Crist is a known as being a nice guy and seems to honestly care about people.  He is a native Floridian who understands how fragile the environment is in our state.  But he is still a conservative.

          I had heard that state Senator Nan Rich was thinking about running for governor.  She is the current minority leader in the Florida Senate, and Dems are very much a minority.  I do not know a lot about her, but believe that she is considered to be fairly progressive.

          The big problem in Florida is that the Democratic party has been weak for some time.  As for Bob Graham, he has been doing work with environmental groups in Florida and has written a number of guest op-eds on the environment.

          "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

          by gulfgal98 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 07:48:17 PM PST

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          •  I didn't always agree with Graham... (1+ / 0-)
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            At times he seemed bit too close to corporations, although that's really the norm in the U.S. Senate. But he was always honest, had a pretty good liberal voting record, and he loves him some Florida. That was always true.

            I don't think he ever liked working in Washington. But to this day; I think he knows where a lot of the proverbial bodies are buried. I always wanted to interview him about what he really knows about 9-11 especially.

            Overall, I'd relish seeing him get back into state politics -- either the governorship or state party chair -- but, alas, I fear that ship has sailed.

            "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

            by markthshark on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:24:54 PM PST

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            •  I think Bob Graham no longer wants (1+ / 0-)
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              the hassle of running for elected office.  I always have admired him for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that he was one of the few who voted against the Iraq war.  And I agree that he probably knows more about the skeletons in Washington than most.  Basically I think he is a good man at heart.

              Since I live in Tall., I had the chance to meet him several times and always found him to be engaged with whomever he was speaking with.  Graham always walked about one mile from the Governor's Mansion to the Capitol each day and could often be spotted walking about downtown during the lunch hour.  He was without airs and extremely approachable at all times.  And yes, he DID write down everything in one of those little notebooks he carried with him at all times.  I remember seeing him do that even way back when he was a young state legislator.

              One of the things that sticks out in my mind about the Grahams is that despite their being very wealthy, their daughters attended public schools.  When Graham was Governor, his youngest daughter attended one of the local high schools.  She had not yet completed high school when he left office, so the Grahams bought a modest town home in downtown near the school where she and Adele lived so she could finish out high school there.  They kept that town home as their Tall. residence until Graham left the Senate.

              I believe Graham sees his calling now as working to help protect the environment.  

              "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

              by gulfgal98 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:23:02 AM PST

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              •  I don't know who was the better governor... (0+ / 0-)

                Graham or Lawton Chiles, but both were damn good for Florida.

                "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

                by markthshark on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:12:30 AM PST

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    •  Here's a recent article about the Crist (4+ / 0-)

      speculation.

      Charlie Crist, Democratic front-runner?

      Former Florida governor Charlie Crist completed his transformation from Republican to Democrat last week, and by doing so, took a step closer to running for governor as a Democrat in 2014, a possibility that has been openly speculated on by political observers in the Sunshine State.
      If Crist runs, he’d have a good shot at winning the Democratic nomination because of the groundwork he laid during the 2012 campaign, and the party’s relatively thin bench in the state.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:11:36 PM PST

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      •  Kind of sad we've got to resort (3+ / 0-)
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        to a recovering Republican as a possible Democratic governor. I'm afraid that at best he'll be a "centrist" and at worst he'll be a Skeletor we'll be told not to complain about because at least he isn't a Republican. :P

        What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

        by ontheleftcoast on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:14:14 PM PST

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        •  I agree, but I have not heard anyone else (4+ / 0-)

          mentioned. But, because I share your suspicions I keep asking.

          One advantage of Crist, though, is that he apparently is considered to have good chances of winning.  

          His public statements denouncing Scott over voter supression, and on a few other issues have been the most aggressive and progressive as any other nationally conspicuous Floridian, except for Rep Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.  Crist's vociferous and scathing anti Scott suppression comments received more press than anyones, including Schultz, fueling speculation is position for another run at Governor.

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:20:47 PM PST

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          •  Crist is not a progressive. He's an opportunist (5+ / 0-)

            But he probably wouldn't be the worst choice.  He's a FL native and cares about the state especially the environment.   He's good on voter rights which is crucial in Fl.

            Macca's Meatless Monday

            by VL Baker on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 06:11:52 PM PST

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            •  Thanks beach babe. I just noticed a title on (2+ / 0-)
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              Huffpo saying "Progressive Dems Charlie Crist is not you friend."  

              I haven't read it yet, but suspect you just summed it up.

              The question becomes can we find a more progressive Florida Democrat who has comparable chances to win, who want to run?

              I'd like to know sooner than later, because I'm tired of waiting to the last minute on this crucial elections and want to throw as many Republicans out as we can.  Especially, remarkable bad ones like Rick Scott is seems ripe for replacement.

              The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

              by HoundDog on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 06:54:54 PM PST

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              •  my choice would be Pam Iorio former mayor (0+ / 0-)

                of Tampa.  She's def. a progressive but has never won statewide.   Don't know if progressives will challenge Crist who has been campaigning forever and has the big bucks behind him.

                Macca's Meatless Monday

                by VL Baker on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:04:41 AM PST

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            •  Totally agree with that assessment (n/t) (0+ / 0-)

              "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

              by gulfgal98 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 07:49:37 PM PST

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        •  Wonder How He'd Do on Voter Suppression? (2+ / 0-)
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          That's the million dollar question.

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:23:10 PM PST

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          •  Oops, Missed Mention By HoundDog Above (1+ / 0-)
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            Very promising.

            We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

            by Gooserock on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:23:54 PM PST

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            •  Former Governor Charlie Christ rocked on voter (3+ / 0-)

              suppression.  He was actually better than any other Democrat that comes to mind.

              He pulled all the stops. Invoking the threat to democracy, using adjectives that make me look lack a slack-jawed bystander, which is quite an accomplishment when you think about it.

              The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

              by HoundDog on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:26:37 PM PST

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            •  Check this out. Crist went on a media round-robin (3+ / 0-)

              Here's one example:

              Charlie Crist Blasts Rick Scotts Unconscionable Voter Suppression

              Former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist (R) on Wednesday criticized his successor, Gov. Rick Scott (R), and other Republicans for using “shameless” tactics that suppress voting rights, including requiring photo IDs, preventing felons from voting and purging voter rolls.

              “The concern really is on sort of a closing the door on democracy,” Crist told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “For example, they’ve already changed the policy as it relates to former, non-violent felons. We had established a policy where they would have their rights automatically restored, give them the opportunity to vote once they had served their time and paid their debt to society. … That has now been changed under the new administration.”

              denouncing Rick Scott on voter suppression, acting like a Hounddog.  

              “In addition, they’ve also said that early voting — which is a great tradition is Florida — has been reduced from a 14-day period before the elections to eight days before, making it again more difficult for legal citizens to have their right to vote be heard.” ...

               “Anytime that you put more impediments into a citizen’s right — a legal citizen’s right to vote and make that more difficult, you impede the natural right of democracy and a citizen’s right to have their voice heard in important elections.”

              “It’s just plain wrong,” he added.

              The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

              by HoundDog on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:33:48 PM PST

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            •  Crist gave felons the right to vote again...Scott (0+ / 0-)

              it right back, unfortunately. Crist extended voting days and hours. Skeletor Scott reduced them.

              "We are a Plutocracy, we ought to face it. We need, desperately, to find new ways to hear independent voices & points of view" Ramsey Clark, U.S. Attorney General.

              by Mr SeeMore on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 01:08:27 AM PST

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          •  Crist extended voting hours in 2008 (1+ / 0-)
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            Presidential election, which made the Republican party in Florida very angry.

            "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

            by gulfgal98 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 07:51:10 PM PST

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