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  •  Mawell, there is a lot of ignorance here (6+ / 0-)
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    from someone whose profile includes AI.

    I have some extensive experience with depression, in several varieties. Also training and experience as an RN. I find Lessig and the family's comments to be very appropriate and need to add that there is a widespread misunderstanding of depression. It usually has several underlying factors. Ultimately, it is like any disease, controlled steadily, until something in the causes and controls goes too far out of balance. The huge difference is that it is the control center that is no longer working. The individual was very likely in control the last time they saw or spoke to family, friends or anyone else. The sudden change used to make me think of a window being opened - with an overwhelming sense that it was the escape I had searched for.

    Just as important, different people have different experiences, symptoms, etc than others. "Snapping" does NOT describe what I experienced when I decided to act on my homicidal as well as suicidal thoughts.

    Far from it, I was suddenly at peace. What stopped me was sort of a fluke. I recognized the irony of my thoughts and laughed... Yes, humor is the best medicine. Endorphins are natural pain killers.

    Others have described different triggers or reasons.

    There is no explaining the mental and emotional pain that allows ideas of committing suicide, hurting family members you love, to be pursued anyway. My plan to kill both children was a purely practical way to remove them from the pain, and being left with their Dad as sole parent.

    For me, apathy is the real mind killer in depression.

    What I am struggling with is how this country treats the best and the brightest, versus the richest. We should all be far too familiar with destructive behavior by really, really bright people. Aaron clearly had no inclination to hurt anyone else physically.

    So one of the parts of the discussion of death and violence needs to include not just mental illness care, but social changes. We revere and shower attention on sports figures, entertainers, business successes, politicians, and the beautiful. We give lip service honor to others.  We give ridicule and disrespect to many just for being different, pursuing their own convictions or values.  We simply ignore far too many others.

    Somewhere, there are some very bright people who have studied this, probably have personal experience, and could give us really good information and ideas that will truly get us to the causes and cures for these problems. They would be some of the best and brightest we tend to ignore.

    "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

    by Ginny in CO on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 09:49:01 PM PST

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    •  Why the ad hominem? (0+ / 0-)

      Why preface all these fine thoughts with a personal attack – in fact one where you go into my profile, cherrypick a biographical detail, and then use it to anchor an insult to a perfect stranger?  Much of what you're saying here reiterates the points I attempted to make rather than contradicting them. If you read what I wrote more closely, you'll see that I was critiquing the narrative of 'snapping', not confirming it.

      We could probably have a decent conversation given that, prior to a life in software, I spent several years working in psychiatric nursing, and have dealt with cases of depression both vocationally and in terms of family and friends. But the ugliness of how you began your commentary makes me hesitate.

      'Fie upon the Congress' - Sen Bob Byrd

      by Maxwell on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 10:26:07 AM PST

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