Skip to main content

View Diary: If you don't have kids you have no value to society (301 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  "I don't get why you need a dependent child if (28+ / 0-)

    you have no income, sounds like should qualify for medicaid."

    This is a very common misperception, even in the liberal community.  The truth of the matter is that sometime (don't know when exactly) the Medicaid program became 'less adult friendly.'  Actually, that's an understatement.  

    It basically excludes all 'able-bodied' adults (i.e., those not receiving or eligible for disability insurance) if they don't have a "dependent" child or children of a certain age group (again, not sure if the cutoff age is--maybe 18?).

    US social insurance policy has been trending in this direction for over 30 years.  That's what all the talk of cutting the social safety net for seniors is about.

    The argument in both Dem and Repub 'think tank circles' is that the GDP and US growth all depend on the children, and therefore we must ensure that the receive all the health care and education that they need.  

    Guess the PtB think that all this is a zero-sum game.  They clearly believe that the regular Joe "senior citizen" has it too good, if more of them are not in breadlines, like they were in the days before Social Security.

    You'll only hear more and more of this, I assure you.  Politicians are careful to allow the policy experts in both parties do the talking on this issue, for reasons that you might imagine.  

    I'm just wondering when this trend of pitting our oldest citizens, against the youngest citizens will end.  Unfortunately, I'd say that we're soon going to find out.

    It's called "the Grand Bargain."

    Mollie

    “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

    by musiccitymollie on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 07:55:45 PM PST

    [ Parent ]

    •  Let me clarify something. I'm pretty certain that (14+ / 0-)

      a "handful of states" may allow able-bodied adults WITHOUT children in Medicaid, if the adult is in "deep poverty."  Sorry, but I can't remember what that annual income is.  It is VERY low, though.

      The problem with the Medicaid program is that the eligibility requirements and benefits of each state Medicaid program have increasingly been allowed to be determined by the individual states.

      IOW, it is no longer a uniform program.

      So, by all means, seek out advocacy help, in case you have a right, or a path to appeal.

      Mollie

      “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

      by musiccitymollie on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 08:18:44 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Massachusetts has Romneycare, which (6+ / 0-)

        includes both their Medicaid (MassHealth, which does cover very low income adults) and a couple levels of subsidized insurance (Commonwealth Care) for people up to a certain income level whose employers don't offer it.

        © cai Visit 350.org to join the fight against global warming.

        by cai on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 08:41:34 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I have limited knowledge of Romneycare. Thanks (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          cai, kyril, Flying Goat

          for the info, cai.

          My understanding is that Massachusetts had one of the lowest "uninsured rates" of the states, in the first place.  (Which is not intended to diss the program--just a statement of fact).

          Anyway, I hope it serves all the folks there very well.

          Thanks for your reply.

          Mollie

          “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

          by musiccitymollie on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 09:36:00 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  I know people who would have been uninsurable (2+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            musiccitymollie, kyril

            without Commonwealth Care -- like the diarist.

            © cai Visit 350.org to join the fight against global warming.

            by cai on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 09:46:42 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  Great! Hopefully the ACA will do the same for (3+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              cai, kareylou, kyril

              many millions of Americans.  

              Mollie

              “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

              by musiccitymollie on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 09:55:19 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  However, keep in mind that thanks to SCrOTUS (2+ / 0-)
                Recommended by:
                kareylou, kyril

                states don't have to expand Medicaid (though they can if they want extra money) under the ACA as that portion was partially struck down.

                You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

                by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 01:24:15 AM PST

                [ Parent ]

                •  That right. We're in a state that doesn't plan to (0+ / 0-)

                  expand the Medicaid program, at this time.  It also opted out of establishing a state exchange, so I guess the feds will set one up here.

                  Thanks for making that point, TTBO.  :-)

                  Mollie

                  “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

                  by musiccitymollie on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 06:49:21 PM PST

                  [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site