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  •  Here's the link to the HR explanation (6+ / 0-)

    The parent comment of MB's commentwas the one HR'd.  

    I'm HR-ing the comment in this thread.

    Self-described political "centrists" believe the best policy is halfway between right and wrong. — @RBReich via web

    by BentLiberal on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 02:30:45 PM PST

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    •  HR'd for something that is clearly debatable? (7+ / 0-)

      and is not supported by solid facts?!  You better see my comment below, and that polling data can be used to support my position as well.  And keep in mind how many house races were won with under 2 % margins, which is in the margin of error of most scientific polls, and is WAY within the margin of error of an exit poll.

      I can make just as strong of a case, if not stronger, using the exact same data.  HRing something like this shows the deterioration that is occurring at DailyKos.   Open discussion over something that is clearly debatable is now being suppressed?

      •  MB: And I am going to HR it every time (10+ / 0-)
        I am sick of this fucking goddamned lie...

        ...that continues to be spread about who exactly "failed to show up" for the Democrats in 2010. And I am going to HR it every time I see it from now on.

        "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand?" David Crosby

        by allenjo on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 04:07:42 PM PST

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      •  It's Totally Debatable, But It's An Inconvenient (4+ / 0-)

        Truth for so many here.

        Like you say, there is data that supports both arguments and it really depends on state by state polling.

        They'll shout you down and call it a "zombie lie," but there is some truth to it.

        I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

        by howarddream on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 06:11:53 PM PST

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        •  That's actually either a lie (1+ / 0-)
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          or a word salad.

          there is data that supports both arguments
          .

          Since word salads can also be lies, perhaps you could kill two birds with one stone and post a reputable link from someone not paid to provide a pre-determined set of "study data" which supports your "argument".

          BTW, the veracity of a statement is not determined by state by state polls.

          It is time to #Occupy Media.

          by lunachickie on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 08:53:28 PM PST

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          •  Word Salad, Huh? (0+ / 0-)

            Well, if you look at the overall national turnout numbers in 2010, it does appear that Democrats had good turnout.

            But if you look at state by state numbers, there is enough data to suggest that Democratic turnout was lower than usual, like in Ohio and Pennsylvania where turnout was lower than in 2006:

            Turnout appeared to be down slightly in several other states, including Ohio and Pennsylvania. Turnout was less robust in neighboring Pennsylvania, where only 41 percent of voters cast ballots, down 3 points from 2006.
            The GOP won 12 House seats from Democrats in the two states combined. They also won both governor's races. If Philly turned out like it normally does, Sestak defeats Toomey.

            I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

            by howarddream on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 12:03:43 PM PST

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    •  As am I, so weary of hearing that crap. (6+ / 0-)

      "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand?" David Crosby

      by allenjo on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 04:01:17 PM PST

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