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  •  What about Bush's signing statements (5+ / 0-)

    Excellent article Gary, thank you!

    But you make no mention of signing statements.  I don't think there is one at play here, but they are an example of the executive interpreting (limiting) the legislature's authority.  

    Are these relevant to the discussion here?

    •  I suspect they aren't (3+ / 0-)

      signing statements are effectively the executive's statements of how the law will be interpreted when implemented, akin to executive orders.  The President doesn't have the authority to limit legislative authority except by veto. (although prosecutorial discretion operates that way also)

      In any event, I'm not sure courts or counsel would really give them much weight when th erubber meets the road.

      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

      by Mindful Nature on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 02:10:30 PM PST

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    •  Signing statements have no force of law (5+ / 0-)

      and frankly I think are little more than executive branch bluster, but all Presidents issue them, at least in the last few decades. They essentially involve the President saying that for Constituional reasons he is going to interpret a provision of the law that he is signing to not be in conflict with what he believes are of his constitutional powers.

      I can't recall many instances where actions have really been taken pursuant to these signing statements. Usually, as with the War Powers Act, the president grumbles but complies.

      But in any event that is fundamentally different than what we are talking about here since there was no signing statement issued in connection with the debt limit law, for whatever good that would've done him.

      Further, affiant sayeth not.

      by Gary Norton on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 02:16:46 PM PST

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