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  •  Notice they gave you something to make you calm? (13+ / 0-)

    Not to alleviate pain.

    BTW 2400mg of motrin in 24 hours is the maximum, you can take it all at once. Since they did not even bring the motrin to a clinical level my only conclusion is that they wanted you in pain.

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 02:34:08 PM PST

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    •  If the problem was muscular spasms... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...then valium is not just appropriate, it's probably a better choice than an opiate.

      •  Yet with 11 herniated discs (2+ / 0-)
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        that they discovered in 97, probably more now, I have never once been given Valium although I tell them my back spasms constantly?

        "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 05:10:34 PM PST

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        •  That's just wrong- valium was first a relaxant (4+ / 0-)

          for muscle spasms before it was used for anxiety. Evidently too many doctors have forgotten that. And it's cheap compared to other muscle relaxants that don't work as well or have more side effects.

          I hope you can find a doctor who will work with you on your back spasms - I've had some the past few years that made breathing painful.

          I asked my doctor for some valium to have on hand for when they happen - it's not something you want to take all the time.
          It makes a nasty addiction.

          Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

          by CA wildwoman on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 12:14:38 AM PST

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          •  War on Drugs (1+ / 0-)
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            Hurts many people in many ways.

            What is the point of worrying about addiction when I'm incapacitated anyway? If I try to do anything resembling a work schedule the spasms just start cascading as the days go by. So I'm not really useful anyway.

            I do agree that toxins are an issue. But they have no grounds to say that about opiates because they have been shown to duplicate existing body chemistry. If you are actually in pain and you take an opiate you will receive no toxic effects at all until the pain threshold is low enough for your body to stop producing it's own opioids. (I forget their name). Yet they tell doctors to choke the patients supply? They make doctors waste their valuable time on paperwork best left to a computer program. For oipiods that are not toxic when properly clinically dosed.

            Now my experiences have left me to believe that there are NO physicians capable of correctly assessing a patients pain because the entire system has been infected by the WOD

            "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

            by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 03:26:21 AM PST

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        •  Does you have any muscle relaxants (1+ / 0-)
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          prescribed?  Because they are a helpful component of the management protocol in addition to taking anti inflammatories when I have even a slight tweak - I don't take the muscle relaxants unless there is actual pain which is thankfully rare - but again a tiny fraction of a pill when I have a tweak and a tiny bit of pain, I have managed to avoid the high drama events that have put me in the hospital in the past.

          •  Knock me on my ass Soma (1+ / 0-)
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            and another one.

            They leave me feeling altered. Past experience tells me Valium leaves me mildly inebriated. I prefer the latter.

            "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

            by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 06:04:15 AM PST

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            •  I actually don't like any of them. (1+ / 0-)
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              I've learned to break the pills into tiny pieces and take just the smallest amount; and I have a lot of different ones depending on the level of severity of an attack. I think part of this challenge is to take as little as you can possibly get away with so that you don't get addicted or desensitized.  If something knocks you on your ass, you should not be taking it, IMO.  Having said that, there is a point where I am either on the verge of or experiencing break through pain (pain that is unmanageable without ass knocking off drugs) and then those are helpful to break the spasm-pain cycle.

              But go see a better doctor.  You'll get the kind of support and advice you need live in person and I'm gonna bet it will help you regain your freedom. ;)

      •  An anti inflammatory would have also (0+ / 0-)

        been very helpful because while the valium helps calm the spasms, the anti inflammatory actually works to stop the actual problem which is inflammation causing friction which causes pain and then spasms from the pain which cause more inflammation - vicious cycle.  The anti inflammatory is the key to breaking the cycle - but I had break through pain that was so bad that in the morning and for three days afterwards I was injected with delauded  at the site and given high powered anti inflammatories in hospital until the attacks finally subsided.

        But I was in the hospital for about ten hours before they decided to do any meaningful investigation - and that was only after the doc told me I could go home and I collapsed again in a ball of pain on the floor when I tried to walk.

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