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  •  You are not supporting your thesis (6+ / 0-)

    Just because it's a date rape, or acquaintance rape, does not suddenly mean it's not about power.  

    The point is that rape is not about irresistable sexual desire.  Rapists who are interviewed after the fact don't remember what their victim was wearing in the vast vast majority of cases.  

    In date rape the rapist could desire to have sex with him victim, perhaps at first out of desire.  But, upon being refused it is about power.  About contempt for the idea that the other person has the choice to consent or not, and his ability to take what he wants.  

    You seem to be arguing that some people are turned on by power, that they are sexually aroused by the lack of consent, like a fetish.  And I would say, how is this not about power?  You're just saying that there are some rapists who get sexual gratification from the exertion of power.... so rape is about power again.

    The point is that rapists don't rape because they get turned on in a traditional sexual sense.  The diarist might argue that they rape to demonstrate or feel powerful.  You seem to be arguing that they rape because raping, in and of itself, turns them on.  

    But neither of these suggest that the rape begins with 'turning on' the rapist.

    •  Who said 'irresistable'? (0+ / 0-)

      To most rapists, the event was no big deal.  So of course they're not going to be remembering what the victim wore.  Most rapists think they didn't do anything wrong.

       But, upon being refused it is about power.
      Given that the "weapon" in most cases is drugs or alcohol, rendering the person unable to refuse (unconscious or too confused), clearly that's not the case.
      You seem to be arguing that some people are turned on by power, that they are sexually aroused by the lack of consent, like a fetish.
      I'm arguing precisely the opposite of that concerning the majority of cases.  And my arguments are backed up by pretty much every study out there.  Most rapists have no preference for consensual or nonconsensual sex.  They simply find nonconsensual sex easier to acquire.  
      You seem to be arguing that they rape because raping, in and of itself, turns them on.
      I thought I was pretty explicit that it's simply sex and nothing more that turns most of them on.  The problem isn't some power or refusal fetish.  The problem is that they have a normal sex drive, but see nothing wrong with proceeding on it when their chosen "partner" is unwilling or unable to consent.

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