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  •  Hunters and Sportsmen need an alternative to NRA. (8+ / 0-)

    The overwhelming majority of gun owners neither own semi-automatic AR-15s nor think the right to bear means unregulated ownership.
    The gun nuts have given people like me a bad name.
    What part of "well regulated" doesn't the NRA understand?

    "Your opponent can't talk when he has your fist in his mouth." - Bill Clinton

    by MethuenProgressive on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 03:23:34 PM PST

    •  McDonald v Chicago + DC v Heller (1+ / 0-)
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      McDonald  v.Chicago


      Writing for the majority, Justice Alito held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment incorporates the Second Amendment right recognized in Heller.[21] Writing a concurring opinion, Justice Thomas reached the same conclusion regarding the incorporation issue on different grounds: Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.[22] The plurality decision also reaffirmed that certain firearms restrictions mentioned in District of Columbia v. Heller are assumed permissible and not directly dealt with in this case.[23] Such restrictions include those to "prohibit...the possession of firearms by felons or mentally ill" and "laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms" [2

      Supreme Court

      The defendants petitioned the United States Supreme Court to hear the case. The plaintiffs did not oppose but, in fact, welcomed the petition. The Supreme Court agreed to hear the case on November 20, 2007.[21] The court rephrased the question to be decided as follows:

          The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted limited to the following question: Whether the following provisions, D.C. Code §§ 7-2502.02(a)(4), 22–4504(a), and 7-2507.02, violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes?

      This represented the first time since the 1939 case United States v. Miller that the Supreme Court had directly addressed the scope of the Second Amendment.[17]

      of Note in Heller
      (2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.

      As the Elites Come Together to Rise Above to Find a Third Way to do Rude things to the 99%

      by JML9999 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 03:45:07 PM PST

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    •  We actually have many (4+ / 0-)
      Maybe our most influential below
      The folks below are lefties with a lot of clout out west
      But without doubt the folks with the most money and the most lobbying experience and the ones that are the most effective in advocating for hunters are

      Below are the dirty dozen, the twelve orgs most apposed to hunting. When I see their names on any post on this web site the spit rises up in my mouth. They've done more to harm rural people and hunting than just about anyone I can imagine.

      I too only own bolt guns and a double barrel. I might make snide remarks about semi auto handguns or tupperware plastic guns but I fully support people in their wish to have them. The greatest danger to law abiding gun owners is suicide, and that's an issue they need to deal with themselves. For homicide you have a different demographic.

      The overwhelming number of gun victims are young, male, minority, and live in the center of a large city. I  value their lives,  and would support any effort to end the overwhelming toll on them and their families. They need a police system they can rely on, a way to make a good middle class wage no matter their education or prior convictions, and a general fair shake at life that they are denied by our society.

      How big is your personal carbon footprint?

      by ban nock on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 03:45:23 PM PST

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