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  •  And very hard to modify (0+ / 0-)

    and modernize.  Bottom line is nothing with running a country (unless that is a country of one) is ever very simple to do.  And sometimes the good of the whole does not make some very happy.

    "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

    by newfie on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:42:03 AM PST

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    •  We could modify the 2nd very easily (1+ / 0-)
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      newfie

      It's quite simple.  If we get rid of the militia nonsense and spell out the 2nd as a clear individual right to own guns, then the 2nd could also be written to limit things like high capacity magazines.  We can limit arsenals without limiting the right to own a gun.

      The problem is the gun control side will never go for that, because they keep dreaming of total gun bans.

      Republicans can't lead on financials because they want to end all spending and shut down the government.  And Democrats can't lead on guns because they don't believe in the individual right.  So stuck in the mud is where we stay until we get sane leadership.

      •  I'm not sure how accurate that statement is. (2+ / 0-)
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        Norm in Chicago, oldpotsmuggler

        - your statement about the "gun control side" that is.

        I think that most people would be happy with your suggestions.  I think a small portion - although it has gained in size the longer this "madness" has continued - seek an all out ban.  And I think the more tragedies we face with the same results being nothing gets done because a very very loud minority insist that no change is acceptable the more people will say - screw it ban all guns.

        So I see a whole lot of pro-gun control folks who would like reasonable restrictions and would like that as part of a comprehensive approach to solving violence problems.  I see a whole of pro-gun control folks who are calling for a multi-faceted approach.  And I see more pro gun people saying NO!  Won't work!.. Cars kill people etc.  I do not see a majority of gun rights advocates calling for or suggesting reasonable restrictions - although I do see some who state this but then spend the vast majority of their efforts decrying any attempts to discuss potential restrictions.

        And I agree - unless we can get things moving we are stuck.  And it will get a whole lot worse before it gets better.  

        "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

        by newfie on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:10:02 PM PST

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