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  •  No just stupid and a waste of money (3+ / 0-)
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    RainyDay, Gentle Giant, BachFan

    Ask the dead at Columbine or VA Tech if armed guards helped them.  

    Oh that's right you can't BECAUSE THEY'RE DEAD!

    How did those armed guards work out for them?  Not very good at all.

    The reason it took cops 15 minutes to secure the school at Sandy Hook was probably because Newtown just doesn't have many cops.  They're not really needed there.  It's a bedroom community with no history of violence let alone gun violence.  Probably more incidents of cow tippings than gun violence.  Posting an armed guard there at considerable expense when towns and state are cutting education budget is ridiculous.  Even more so when you consider that another mass shooting like this may never happen again in Newtown so you'll be posting guards at all the schools at a considerable sum for that .001% change some wackjob will shoot up another school.  Not to mention that unless you post guards at every door it still won't prevent the rogue nut armed with an arsenal.  

    Frankly I'm sick and tired of this BS idea that was born out of a desire by the NRA to sell more guns.  You want to stop gun violence at our schools?  Well the logical solution is to remove guns from the equation, not add more.  Make it impossible for wackjobs to get them and you won't get wackjobs shooting up schools in west bumblefuck CT (no offense Greg).  It's a fucking stupid idea to post guards at our schools.

    And firebombs?  Seriously?  When was the last time you heard of a fucking firebombing incident?

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:21:01 AM PST

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    •  So why does the Federal Government have 15,000 (0+ / 0-)

      Armed security guards under contract to protect Social Security offices, etc?  They don't seem think "removing guns from the equation" is a good idea.

      And the failures at Columbine were the result of bad police tactics -- throwing up a security perimeter and waiting for SWAT and the negotiators to arrive --instead of doing their job and protecting the kids by confronting the killers.

      Re "When was the last time you heard of a fucking firebombing incident?" --
      are you the same brainiac that was saying "who ever heard of a school massacre" a decade or so ago?

    •  Newtown doesn't have a history of crime? (2+ / 0-)
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      Greg Dworkin, CatFelyne

      You must have missed the "Hells Angels Murders" in the 70's, the "Woodchipper Murder" in 1986, the 2nd missing and never found stewardess from 1987, a double murder/suicide on Thanksgiving during the 90's, the body found last year in a barn basement from a murder in the early 80's.  At one point Newtown had 3 murders in 3 weeks.

      In my time at Newtown PD there were over 10 murders and countless suicides, drug overdoses and untimely deaths. The drug and burglary problem has been out of control for years.

      Newtown has a 48 person department covering the 5th largest town in area in the state of Connecticut with a population of 28,000 people.  Newtown is connected and central to Danbury, Waterbury, Bridgeport and New Haven with Rte 25 directly connecting Danbury and Bridgeport through the middle of town with I84 connecting Waterbury and Danbury through town also.

      Did I mention the State Prison located on the property of the former State Mental Hospital in Newtown?  

      Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.--Adolph Hitler

      by hwstormer on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 05:29:47 PM PST

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      •  it's an idyllic community (0+ / 0-)

        and  a wonderful place to raise kids and to live.

        It's not, otoh, some fake "leave it to beaver" town. I can remember a heroin arrest a block away the year I moved here.

        We (the medical community; I'm a pediatrician) work with law enforcement pretty closely, as well as with the surrounding towns and city of Danbury in the Housatonic Valley region.

        The comments above by hwstormer are, again, right on the money.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 06:17:05 PM PST

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