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  •  Deprivation of the franchise? That's not a basis (3+ / 0-)
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    for federal action?

    Are any of the gerrymandered states under the Voting Rights Act?



    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 04:51:52 PM PST

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    •  Wee Mama - the Voting Rights Act (3+ / 0-)
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      deals only with specific protected groups and those states have to submit the new legislative boundaries before the election. You may recall the Texas lines went right down to the wire because of the interaction between the federal courts, DoJ, and the Texas legislature.

      I don't know what the term "deprivation of the franchise" means and what federal statutes it references.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 05:40:42 PM PST

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      •  I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the proper terms (3+ / 0-)
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        but if it takes twice as many Democratic votes to elect a Representative, in effect each Democrat has had half their vote taken away.

        I know that the Voting Rights Act is limited in its application - I was wondering whether any of the gross offenders were on the list. If not then it shows that federal action can improve democracy.



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 05:46:44 PM PST

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        •  Wee Mama - there are some exceptions in small (1+ / 0-)
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          population states, but most Congressional districts have about the same number of people. The entire purpose of gerrymandering is to create concentrations of your opponents voters into a small number of districts thereby dividing the remaining members so your side has a better chance to elect more members of Congress. This has been going on for centuries. It's only when you discriminate against specific protected classes that the courts can intervene. The lines don't have to be "fair" and being a generic Republican or Democrat isn't a protected class.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 07:32:15 PM PST

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          •  no, but it includes race... (3+ / 0-)
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            and to the extent that more and more states have ever larger Latino populations... it might apply.

            tho' I think the focus was the states of the South.

            Tho' CA has been subject to this oversight.

            "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

            by fhcec on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 08:43:19 PM PST

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