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  •  Doesn't matter (2+ / 0-)
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    If there were a 5-day waiting period, only that, he wouldn't have the gun yet, as only 3 days have passed since he initiated the purchase.  Regardless of what he might or might not have done in the future, those people would still be alive now.  At least they wouldn't have been shot by that person with that gun, because he'd still be waiting to get it.

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    by Land of Enchantment on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 11:59:55 AM PST

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    •  as noted by Pager above, is there really a (5+ / 0-)

      cooling off period for abusers and the short answer is "no" They are not reactive in their abuse; they are proactive.  That is one myth we need to get over.  My daughter's boyfriend was always claiming she "made" him do bad things (for example she said "No I will not give you half of my tax refund; I need to buy winter coats for the girls"  This statement made him pick up a lamp and try to hit her in the head with it)

      While the people would be alive today, please do not think that they would be alive in 30 days because he would have "cooled off".  There is no cooling off for abusers

      •  prevent him getting a gun at the store, (2+ / 0-)
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        does he steal one somewhere or instead beat his victims to death or stab them?

        Cannot guarantee a waiting period would have kept them alive.

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        by BlackSheep1 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 01:07:50 PM PST

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      •  OT, but I recently (2+ / 0-)
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        read a fascinating investigation of the language used by sociopaths, and they use more "cause-effect" language than non-sociopaths. In their minds, X caused me to do Y makes a lot of sense. He really did try to harm your daughter because she withheld something he wanted, thereby naturally "causing" him to (fill in the blank, there is no behavior too outrageous that can't be explained by being "provoked" in this manner).

        •  exactly; I think it is called displacement whereby (0+ / 0-)

          blame for any act is displaced by them and projected upon their victim, flipping the incident whereby the victim actually is referred to as the perpetrator

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