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  •  It is a GOP talking point (0+ / 0-)

    but I felt that reading the diary made it pretty clear.  

    The comparison to a retail workers wage, the generalized mockery simply based on wage, the desire to see someone who may have already earned low wages return to that so they can learn some lesson they may have already learned.

    This desire to penalize people because they have reached a certain income threshold.  The creation of this particular wealthy person or high wage earners who dares share the same disappointment millions of Americans of all incomes and political persuasions feel when their taxes go up.  

    Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

    by mim5677 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 08:22:32 AM PST

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    •  Personally (5+ / 0-)

      There were some years (before Bush) that we were in the top 2% or 3%, and one year we made it into the top 1%.  

      I can remember looking at my Form 1040 and actually being embarrassed at how little we paid in taxes - based on your comment above it was more than you earn in a year, and probably a smaller percentage than what you pay in taxes. And that's at the Clinton rates, not the Bush rates, and paying both parts of Social Security/Medicare.

      No, we didn't voluntarily send more to the government, but we did up our donation levels for a while, and put a bunch into savings instead of consumption. Which is why, during and after the Bush/Obama economies, we could still live in our house and eat 3 meals a day.

      In Soviet Russia, you rob bank. In America, bank robs you.

      by badger on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 11:45:19 AM PST

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      •  I'm going to make an assumption if that's ok... (0+ / 0-)

        I assume you were friends with other people who also paid a tax rate equal to or higher than what I made in a year.  

        I can't imagine that everyone one of them if my assumption is right was as embarrassed as you were if at all about the amount of taxes they paid.  

        If my assumption is right I assume you didn't "defriend" them based on their lack of embarrassment.  

        My father in law probably pays twice my salary a year in taxes and is pissed about every dollar he has to pay, but he's a good man, a literal life saver, a generous man both with his time and money, a loving grandfather, a smart man, and a pretty cool guy to hang out with, who has a sad face when his taxes go up.  So what?

        Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

        by mim5677 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 01:06:21 PM PST

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        •  Sure - not everybody I know agrees with me (2+ / 0-)
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          just like not everybody I know agrees with your father-in-law, or you.

          And a lot of people, including everyone in the WSJ graphic, can do just fine at the higher tax rate.

          A lot of people are sad because Obama got elected - that's no reason to cut them slack when they try to pretend he didn't get elected. Similarly, I see no reason to feel sorry for (and in fact not mock) people with tens of thousands of truly disposable income who are sad because a tiny increment of that will be going for taxes.

          You're suggesting we should be understanding when Scrooge lets Bob Cratchit freeze because he's too cheap to toss an extra lump of coal in the stove. I understand that kind of behavior, but I'm not sympathetic toward it, and the people in the graphic, if really sad, are essentially no different than Scrooge.

          In Soviet Russia, you rob bank. In America, bank robs you.

          by badger on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 02:46:05 PM PST

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          •  I'm not suggesting people be understanding (0+ / 0-)

            I'm suggesting they be reasonable.  

            Did you mock your wealthy friends?  or treat them as the enemy solely based on their income?  Of course not.

            The whole reason I was engaged is because I felt the diary stunk of envy and still do.  The diarist blamed our poor economy on people that made a certain dollar threshold, regardless of a sad or happy face.  Even though he admitted he was one of those people at one time.  

            Why would someone being sad about paying more taxes make them a scrooge, when that says nothing about their charitable donations or generosity?  You don't have a thorough accounting of where your federal tax dollars go.  Your taxes could be the taxes that puts a 10k screw on to a drone

            It's lazy to mock someone based on a number and not know anything about their situation.

            Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

            by mim5677 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 09:00:01 PM PST

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