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  •  Just wait till they shut down the government (3+ / 0-)
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    Gary Norton, greenbell, Creosote

    Gun control was impossible until Newtown.  Disasters have a way of focusing people's attention on what's going wrong.

    When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

    by litho on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 08:45:57 AM PST

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    •  Dems won the popular House vote (2+ / 0-)
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      ItsSimpleSimon, 3goldens

      by 3 or 4% in 2012. And still did not win the House.

      I don;t see how they can win it in 2014.

      •  My experience is that demography... (2+ / 0-)
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        Eric Nelson, kat68

        ...overwhelms neatly drawn district lines faster than the line drawers will admit. The continued low level revolt in the GOP House and actions by state legislatures will contribute as well. In short, what looks insurmountable now may look like a difficult but navigable pass through the mountains in 15 months.

        That's my bit of Pollyanna, and I'm sticking to it  ;-)

        When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

        by Egalitare on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 10:28:09 AM PST

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    •  Depending on vote distribution... (1+ / 0-)
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      chuckvw

      ...the Democrats could conceivably win 55% of the votes for House members in the US, and still lose the House. (Which is to say, we could win the popular House vote by TEN PERCENT, and still not control the House.

      In fact, that distribution is more likely than them winning 53% of the votes for House members in the US and winning the House. If we only (!) win the country by 6%, we have essentially no chance of retaking the House.

      Which is to say, in order to win the House, we would need a landslide bigger than any since Reagan/Mondale. If you only include non-presidential years, there has not been an election 'swingy' enough in the last 50 years (if I am interpreting the numbers correctly) to have swung the House to the Democrats. And people have only become more polarized, and less willing to even consider voting across party lines. Certainly not less.

      All this 'focus on the House in 2014' stuff is taking resources away from the state races that we should be focusing on. But instead, the Democratic party isn't even talking about them. If this continues, not only will we be stuck with a Republican House after 2020 and the next redistricting, we will also probably be stuck with a Republican president too. (Assuming they are able to pass the 'allocate presidential votes by congressional district' laws that they're showing every sign of being able to pass.)

      Well, if we let them keep those state houses, at this point, knowing what they can do with them, then we deserve what we get.

      •  Speak for yourself, kemosabe (3+ / 0-)
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        Gary Norton, Eric Nelson, Creosote

        because my union is prioritizing elections at all levels.  We basically swept in November, and we're keeping our campaign machinery polished and ready.

        I recommend progressives throughout the country do the same.

        When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

        by litho on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26:54 AM PST

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