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  •  Using that logic, the Majority Leader, Harry Reid (2+ / 0-)
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    of Nevada, would likely no longer be a US Senator.

    Because that is exactly how the 2010 race shaped up - Reid expected to have to face off with long time Nevada legislator, Republican Sue Lowden (former state legislator and Nevada Republican Chairwoman)... who had been a front-runner in the primary.

    But TBagR Sharron Angle won that primary, and Reid defeated her and her crazy ideas (like paying doctors with chickens) with ease.

    So don't count your chickens before they're hatched. In the current climate of the Republican Party, I can see just how easily the KY Senator (Paul) might crush the otherwise popular Christie in a primary season - all he will have to do is run ads 24/7 of Christie with President Obama after Sandy hit New Jersey, and claim that Chris Christie is a RINO and can't be trusted by true conservatives!.


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    by Angie in WA State on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 05:01:35 PM PST

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    •  Naw (2+ / 0-)
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      Someone like Christie will be nominated, just like Romney was. He was the cream of the crop. LOL

    •  I thought Lowden (9+ / 0-)

      was the pay-em-with-chickens lady, and Angle was 2nd amendment remedies and running away from reporters.

      In any event, we have GOT to do a better job of getting out the vote in off years. I am continually amazed that ignoramuses like Rand Paul could even get elected dog-catcher, much less United States Senator, a once distinguished and honorable job.

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 05:43:08 PM PST

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      •  I was going to say the same thing (6+ / 0-)

        Lowden did propose paying doctors with chickens, and Angle, besides what you stated, also told an assembly of mostly Hispanic high school students, that they looked kind of Asian to her.

        You're absolutely right we have to do better getting out the vote in off years.  Lets hope 2010 taught a lesson to voters and they turn out in 2014 for the midterms.

        Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

        by Rosalie907 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 08:18:47 PM PST

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        •  Don't forget Christine O'Donnell (2+ / 0-)
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          That Delaware Senate seat was considered a gimme for Mike Castle, who was on target to crush Democrat Chris Coons. So why is Chris Coons now a U.S. Senator?

          Must've been witchcraft!

          Jon Husted is a dick.

          by anastasia p on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 11:28:43 PM PST

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          •  You're right (2+ / 0-)
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            How could I ever forget her and her "I'm not a witch" commercials?  Luckily we had Samantha the witch and not Esmarilda (her mom but I know I didn't spell her name correctly).

            Still, 2014 is going to be important but I'm not sure how good we can do with the redistricting and all those red states with red houses and governors.

            Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

            by Rosalie907 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:27:04 AM PST

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            •  I so wish (0+ / 0-)

              someone had taken that commercial and dubbed it to have Christine say: "I'm not a witch... I'm a fluffy bunny!"

              "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

              by Orinoco on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 01:07:11 AM PST

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    •  Actually it was Sue Lowden who (7+ / 0-)

      had the idea of paying doctors with chickens, which now seems sane compared to Angle's ideas.

      "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

      by gritsngumbo on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 06:14:52 PM PST

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    •  re: "in the current climate" (3+ / 0-)
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      it's a cliche, but four years is a long time in politics....

      There is all sorts of room on the center-left wing of the GOP. The 2012 primary was a frantic stampede to the right, and I can't imagine that'll happen two cycles in a row.

      Imagine for the sake of argument that the frontrunner who emerges on the D side is a real asskicking lefty like (say) Feingold. There will be a vast gulf between the ideological positions of the 2012 GOP field and that hypothetical leader of the D pack. Christie will have a huge opening (no fat joke intended).

      As much as I can't stand him, I have to concede that he has charisma and a track record that'll play well in the GOP primary. He'll probably get trashed in places like SC but I think Christie has the ability to go over pretty well in IA/NH....especially relative to a guy like Paul, who's going to be quite vulnerable to being associated w/ his apostate father. (Which would also suggest a lack of institutional & Wall St. support, which is crucial on the R side. Ron Paul has made a great many enemies over the years.)

      Romney couldn't take advantage of that space in the middle because he was (or thought he was) so vulnerable on his right flank. Additionally, 1) Romney has negative charisma and 2) by the time the general rolled around, he was mostly running away from his resume (since he'd already disavowed most of it in the primary). Christie is a lot better at playing The Game than Romney ever was. And I don't think Christie will have any problem with getting the money people behind him.....I can easily imagine the Bush/Rove mafia supporting him as a way to counter the teabaggers.

      All this could easily change drastically if the 2014 midterm turns out to be a big swing in either direction, or if the D frontrunner is some awful Blue Dog, so take with all appropriate sodium....

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      by nota bene on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 07:33:02 PM PST

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      •  The GOP has been steadily swinging to the right (0+ / 0-)

        It's wildly unlikely it's going to suddenly swing to the "center-left." (It has no "center-right," let alone a "center-left.") It has carefully cultivated a hardcore base of insane far righties it would have to leave behind. And rather than scaring off people in the middle, a really articulate ass-kicking leftie would be embracing positions that MOST Americans support, no matter what what they call themselves ideologically (the positions poll better than the tags). The GOP would respond to that kicking and screaming and demonizing and moving further to the right.

        Jon Husted is a dick.

        by anastasia p on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 11:31:49 PM PST

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        •  Still and all, (1+ / 0-)
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          I have no doubt that Republicans are not smart enough to actually move to the left. But they will want to cultivate the optics of moving to the left, or at least of wanting to go after some of the left's traditional constituencies. So look to them making noises about immigration reform, and about how the free market is the true friend of immigrants, women, and people of color -- showering jobby goodness down on us all.

          One thing we should never do is to underestimate the capacity of the Republicans for rebranding. At the start of 2009, we thought there was no way that they could overcome the albatross of the Bush legacy. But there they were in 2010, sweeping the midterms, because they managed to repackage chicken shit as chicken salad.

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 05:32:14 AM PST

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