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  •  If I am looking at where you quote that line from (4+ / 0-)

    It's from a quick summary of roughly the past 250 years and a whole grab bag of references. It wasn't intended to be detailed or nuanced, just short hand.

    Thom Hartmann's piece goes into  much more detail, as do several of the commentators. I chose to emphasize it because I think it's one of the more important elements in discussions about the Second Amendment that gets elided or omitted.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 03:30:28 PM PST

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    •  It's a critical point that most people don't know (8+ / 0-)

      I didn't know it until I read about it here recently, and I've studied history far more than about 99% of the population.   There's a tendency to view the Constitution as though it was handed to Moses on stone tablets on Mt. Sinai instead of viewing it a the subject of multiple comprises between fallible and occasionally biased human beings.  Thank you for offering this reality check.

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 05:50:25 PM PST

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      •  Oddly, Hartmann of all people didn't (1+ / 0-)
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        know much about it until recently. One of his callers brought it up on the show and was quite prepared. Thom was gracious, indicated he had a gap in knowledge he needed to check out, and praised his audience of 'the smartest people in the world.'

        Not many weeks later, I believe the show was last week or the week before, Thom came out with the information he had put together.  I saw one person comment on how it was just Hartmann believing what fits his views. Which reminded me, I firmly believe that in order not to have to confront ideas that don't fit your views, you don't read or listen to them.

        It really does put a lot of things into the narrative that were clearly missing. I think the whole reality of why the slaves were not able to rise up enough to fight it (great Django Unchained clip in Hartmann's TV show) cannot be explained without the slave patrols. This gives more reason to understand how they came about and were allowed to function.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 07:47:07 PM PST

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