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  •  Strasser, Roehm didn't 'believe' in infallibility (2+ / 0-)
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    of Germany's Guide and that violated the Fuhrerprinzip.

     “Woe to him who does not believe!” --Hitler

    •  Antisemitism Was Rural Populism, But Hitler...... (1+ / 0-)
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      .....believed all that antisemitic stuff, right up to his final hours.

      If the Nazis had only made a few land grabs and stayed out of Scandinavia and France, and left the Jews alone, they would probably still be in power.

      Without the Holocaust, there would be an actual "Fascist Party" right now in the United States, and it would on the ballot in every state.

      BTW it is possible to cherry pick pro-Socialist Nazi propaganda, which they sent east to Russia, while sending anti-Socialist propaganda west to England.  

      There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

      by bernardpliers on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 10:16:35 AM PDT

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      •  Hitler believed both in World Jewish Conspiracies (1+ / 0-)
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        and  in the effectiveness of anti-Semitism politics as practiced by Vienna mayor Karl Lueger.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        Hitler attacked Russia based on its performance in WWI and the Finnish Winter War. I am not sure Russia would
        have beaten Germany if the US had not entered the war
        but I would have still given the edge to Stalin.
        I don't think you could have kept Hitler out of France,
        he wanted revenge for Versailles.
        A lot of Hitler's antisemtism was rooted in the Stab-in-the-Back myth spread by Ludendorf.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/...

        US fascism would probably look like Petain's France where
        Liberty, Equality and Fraternity were replaced by
        Work, Family and the Fatherland.

        •  There Was A Lot Of Antisemitism (1+ / 0-)
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          ..... but German Jews were more cosmopolitan and and assimilated than in other countries.  And it was the Nazi Nuremberg laws that defines someone as Jewish according to their grandparent's ethnicity.  Hitler lost support when key people who had been Christian for 2 generations were classified as "Jews."

          Hitler blended the idea of national "spirit" and race, and you can see that today as conservatives (Dinesh D'souza) say Obama is not really "American" because he is apparently tainted by his jungle blood or something.  It was ever so kind of D'souza to move to America from his native Bangalore to referee what is a "real" American.

          There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

          by bernardpliers on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 12:43:32 PM PDT

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