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  •  Those who choose a gun are trying to kill (11+ / 0-)

    themselves.

    Many of those who cut their wrists or take a lot of pills are not.

    You can't have serious conversations about the subject until you understand that most "failed suicide attempts" (by far) are Parasuicide.

    Australia took the guns away - and saw suicide rates continue to surge until they got serious about investing in a national suicide prevention strategy.

    That's not a case for or against any regulation.  12,000 people who aren't making a choice to die are killed with guns every year in this country.  We ought to be working to change that.

    But if we want to tackle suicide, we're also going to have to tackle suicide.  Because it's not the same issue.

    "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

    by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 07:13:14 AM PST

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    •  Can you cite the source for Australian suicide (1+ / 0-)
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      rates that "continued to surge" after the gun ban? All I'm seeing is that they slowly declined after the ban. And this was from a pro-gun site

      "Be that as it may, Australia’s overall suicide rate has remained essentially unchanged. According to the study data, the rate of suicide (any method) per 100,000 people was as follows:
      2008: 10.2229
      2007: 8.93
      2006: 8.70
      2005: 10.30
      2004: 10.44
      2003: 11.1424
      2002: 11.81
      2001: 12.64
      2000: 12.34
      1999: 13.17
      1998: 14.34
      1997: 14.69
      1996: 13.07
      1995: 13.10
      1994: 12.65
      1993: 11.78
      1992: 13.11
      1991: 13.65
      1990: 12.66
      1989: 12.47
      1988: 13.29"

      A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. - Greek proverb

      by marleycat on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 08:10:29 AM PST

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