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  •  I would really like (7+ / 0-)

    to have the level of support you describe, but without the whole God thing.  It's not possible (at least as far as I know).  It's sad that we can't come together without a pretend supernatural center.

    Democracy, if done properly, is rude, messy, and loud

    by allensl on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 11:09:23 AM PST

    •  Yeah (4+ / 0-)
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      Smoh, Aunt Pat, Eyesbright, ladybug53

      That's been a big part of why we stayed, long after those times and long after our kids were through with college.  I should say, tho', that it wasn't just church people who kept us whole.

      I was teaching then, and my students & their parents also showed up.  And my husband was an artist, so that whole community was there, along with some folks from 12th step groups whose names I don't even know to this day.  A few neighbors appeared from nowhere, too.

      But most of our important relationships had been formed within that community, because we had done so much socializing and volunteering and music and camping and traveling and small group stuff and all the rest of it in that context.  

      I think it should be possible . . .

    •  ... maybe it's not "pretend" or "supernatural" (0+ / 0-)

      Maybe "we can't come together without [it]" is a broad hint that this "center," whether we understand it yet or not, whether we can characterize it yet or not, whether we do or don't detect/care about/need/want it, is real in some way.

      Strange but potent stuff, this God thing.

      YES WE DID -- AGAIN. FOUR MORE YEARS.

      by raincrow on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 04:16:07 PM PST

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    •  It's completely possible. (0+ / 0-)

      And I've seen it happen.

      See my comment below (shortly).

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