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  •  Any doubts about how difficult the battle will be (5+ / 0-)

    to shut down some of the gun cult, with any type of regulations, is seen right here:

    Pro-Gun Rally At Capitol Draws 1,000

    This is in Hartford,CT  the state where Sandy Hook is....

    Says all you need to know what we're up against.

    •  I'm with Kagro. (3+ / 0-)

      Let's just tell them all that their guns are dirty, and let them shoot themselves trying to clean them.

      "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

      by Bush Bites on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 01:23:26 AM PST

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    •  It may be worthwhile to point out that (2+ / 0-)
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      any legislative change will more than likely to require the cooperation of gun owners, before all gun owners are painted with a single broad brushstroke.

      •  Well, I certainly agree that probably 75% of (1+ / 0-)
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        gun owners are not the problem; but I would venture that most at that rally yesterday are your fierce 2nd A rights defenders...against ALL regs...

      •  Where are the sensible gun owners? (0+ / 0-)

        The broad brushstroke is hard at work with monster guns on backs of men at JC Penney & our beautiful Capitol hallways - it is making it extremely hard for me to feel like having a reasonable discussion about gun rights.

        I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

        by hulibow on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 05:21:44 AM PST

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        •  would I be considered sensible? (3+ / 0-)
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          I consider myself reasonable and years ago was one of the leaders of the charge against "road hunting" in my state.  At that time it was legal to release deer hounds in the road right of way onto adjoining property and then to shoot the deer as they were driven out of the woods into the roadway.  I was one of those who worked on a governor's commission to find a compromise and, yes, I received death threats.  I find it somewhat confounding to find myself now lumped in with those who in those days, dumped trash in my yard, left deer guts on my doorstep and cherrybombed my mailbox.  

          •  I get it (2+ / 0-)
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            my husband is a gun owner, a hunter. He was so disgusted by the obnoxious show of whatever it was at our statehouse today that he mentioned giving up his gun in favor of going back to the bow. I have no issues coming up with some solutions to the gun violence problem that satisfy all, but the NRA going batshit and people walking around town with AK47's on their backs is totally turning me into STFU mode, which is not helpful to finding common ground.

            I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

            by hulibow on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 06:03:06 AM PST

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        •  I'm thinking the same place sensible GOPhers are (3+ / 0-)

          Okay, okay, Kos gun owners, don't have a cow -- that's only partially snark.

          But seriously, it seems like the only place "sensible gun owners" gun owners exist is in the polls. There needs to be a concerted, unified effort by gun owners who are okay with what Obama's doing  to stand up and say, "Look, we own guns, we like them, and we're not giving them up. But Newtown was horrific, Wayne LaPierre is a loon, and the NRA is more concerned with weapons manufacturers' profits than it is the safety of our children and our neighbors!"

          It would be good if the Brady Campaign or Gabby Giffords & Mark Kelly's new group could do outreach or set up a companion operation with you. But if they don't do that, I wish some of you would grab onto that entrepreneurial spirit GOPhers say Obama is killing and literally go into business for yourselves! Establish a nonprofit, build a web site, find someone who's willing to go on a talkshow or two, and just do it! You'll feel better, and so will your country!

          "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

          by Oliver Tiger on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 05:52:12 AM PST

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    •  that's not very many (1+ / 0-)
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      considering how much noise they make.
      iI  suspect the true number of '2nd amendment' believers is much smaller than they want to believe or admit.

      (Srsly, shouldn't there have been tens of thousands out yesterday in all the urban areas, given how dangerous they believe cities are?)

      (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

      by PJEvans on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 08:54:02 AM PST

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      •  Righty-o! (0+ / 0-)

        Why not have a day for those of us who SUPPORT Obama on new gun laws, protest?

        In spite of the fact that almost every single progressive gain, from women getting the vote, to the civil rights battles, to labor laws, gay marriage, and Occupy...

        ALL were won because people TOOK TO THE STREETS!

        Demonstrations are fun. I've been in quite a few myself. You get to meet new people, shout meaningful slogans, and make a political point that people notice.

        The internet is fine, but it is NO SUBSTITUTE.

        Don't believe me?

        When was the last time you heard ANY major news outlet headline, "Thousands take to mouse to click link."

        Exactly.

        What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

        by equern on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 03:55:43 PM PST

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    •  Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me... (0+ / 0-)

      that Hartford couldn't scrounge together 1,000 to SUPPORT new gun restrictions???

      1,000 concerned parents, teachers, kids...??

      Really?

      What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

      by equern on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 03:47:57 PM PST

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