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  •  i lived in Japan as a jet for two years several (9+ / 0-)

    years ago. Their situation is entirely different from ours.

    1. Japan has a history of disarming their citizens going back to the feudal age. Americans have NEVER been without guns since first ships from Europe brought them.

    2. Japan is an island that strictly controls both it's human immigrants as well as materials that enter.  The U.S. has a giant border with a country basically in civil where guns flow across freely.

    3. Japan simply has a different culture. Most the citizens are simply too polite to kill someone. They have a culture that at many levels leaves suicide as a legitimate option. The U.S. has a basically mean spirited culture, and no I'm not just talking about the political right, the left has it's own form of mean spiritedness.

    •  "Most the citizens are simply too polite ..." (8+ / 0-)

      "... to kill someone."

      America never
      will have a fall that bad as
      have such politeness


      "This isn't America" - Zenkai Girl

      by mythatsme on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 02:02:48 AM PST

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    •  Hmmm (14+ / 0-)

      1. Countries like Canada and Mexico suffer from the insane gutnuttiness of the US. Pretty much all of the illegal guns in Canada are smuggled from the US. That is definitely one US export we would be extremely happy to stop.

      2. And I suppose Canadians are too polite to kill each other, since murder rate rate lower here too (as in Japan the other polite country) Of course the other way to put it is that Americans are so radically impolite that they have murder rates on par with  ....

      3. The fact remains, take away the guns and crime drops. Go to Guatemala or Honduras and see the number of guns ... and the crime rate (both high). Go to Canada and see the relative absence of guns and see a lower crime rate. This is NOT rocket science.

      There's room at the top they're telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill

      by taonow on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 04:49:13 AM PST

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      •  "The more guns the more funerals" (5+ / 0-)

        Lots more guns, lots more funerals.

        Why is the suicide rate brought up as if that is not a loss to society, as if it is not something we would want to prevent. And the best prevention in North America would be to end the proliferation of guns.

        "take away the guns" could be done mostly by strict background checks with follow-ups, regulations on registration, safe storage, insurance of guns.

        I can't see why law-abiding gun owners  would object to those regulations since they would not affect them.

        ❧To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 08:52:53 AM PST

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      •  US guns flow into Mexico b/c the Mexican... (1+ / 0-)
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        ..Government wants guns to flow into its territory.

        Just glance at the wealth of so many PRI and PAN governors whose states border the US.  It's an open secret that its due to their alliances with the NarcoTraffickers.

        Very profitable venture for both, Mexican Pols and Drug Traffickers.

        If the Mexican government were serious about cracking down on the gun trade, they'd investigate the millions of dollars these "public servants" have stashed away.  Until they do, anything you hear regarding flow of guns into Mexico is just noise.

        Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

        by PatriciaVa on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 01:59:53 PM PST

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        •  Mexican Government wants guns to flow into it's... (0+ / 0-)

          territory??? That's a real interesting statement.

          Have a link to back that up?

          Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

          by reflectionsv37 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 03:49:47 PM PST

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          •  Mexican Governor got Millions in Drug Cash: DEA (0+ / 0-)

            It's not even an open secret.

            The RightWing Parties in Mexico, PRI/PAN, benefit from drugs and arms trafficking.

            Mexican Governor got Millions in Drug Cash, DEA Says

            Read more:

            U.S. drug agents have evidence that cartel leaders paid millions to a Mexican border state governor and other figures in Mexico's former ruling party in exchange for political influence, according to a court filing in Texas.

            Confidential informants told Drug Enforcement Administration investigators that leaders of the Zetas and Gulf cartels made payments to Institutional Revolutionary Party members including Tomas Yarrington, who served as governor of Tamaulipas state in 1999-2004, according to the complaint filed in U.S. District Court in San Antonio, Texas.

            The affidavit says the DEA also has obtained ledgers documenting millions of dollars in payments to Yarrington's representatives.

            Yarrington declined to comment when contacted by The Associated Press on Friday.

            Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

            by PatriciaVa on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 04:48:29 PM PST

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            •  So you post a link to a Fox news story... (0+ / 0-)

              that doesn't contain the word gun or firearm as evidence that the...

              Mexican Government wants guns to flow into it's territory.
              Quite a stretching of the facts there! There are corrupt politicians just about everywhere there are politicians. But you're way out on a limb claiming that Mexican politicians want guns brought into their country. I'd say that is a blatantly false statement.

              Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

              by reflectionsv37 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 05:25:59 PM PST

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              •  My parents hail from Nuevo Leon, Mexico (0+ / 0-)

                As a child, I spent many summers in that state.  I'm also familiar with Tamaulipas.

                Not a stretch at all.

                Don't like Fox.  What about Proceso?


                MÉXICO, D.F., (apro).- El exgobernador de Tamaulipas Tomás Yarrington presuntamente brindó protección al cártel de “Los Zetas” desde principios del año 2000, reveló la Agencia Antidrogas estadunidense (DEA, por sus siglas en inglés).

                El periódico Reforma obtuvo las declaraciones de cuatro testigos protegidos que señalaron a la DEA la relación entre Yarrington y el capo Antonio Peña Argüelles, a quien ubican como el intermediario entre el gobernador y los sicarios Miguel Treviño Morales y Hediberto Lozcano.

                You think I'm out on a limb b/c I believe that Mexican pols benefit from and encourage arms trafficking?

                I think that people who believe otherwise are very naive.

                Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

                by PatriciaVa on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 07:05:54 PM PST

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    •  not only do they (4+ / 0-)
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      "simply have a different culture," but as the diarist points out, we are talking about a country that fits inside California with room to spare.  i.e., an entire country can fit inside one of our states.

      homogeneity of culture is a lot easier to achieve on the small scale; america has many diverse life experiences.

      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

      by Cedwyn on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 06:03:41 AM PST

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    •  Too polite to kill...that's funny! (2+ / 0-)
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      I think it more culturally appropriate to say "They consider killing from a distance to be impolite."

      Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, before the police arrive ... teachers are first responders.

      by 8ackgr0und N015e on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 06:25:56 AM PST

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