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  •  The MMPI-2 is 567 questions that are answered (1+ / 0-)
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    true or false.  Buried in the questions are a number of questions that are true of everyone, but might be embarrassing to admit.  There are others that measure consistency.  In other words, it asks the same or a similar question to a previous one, but is worded completely different.  There are a number of internal validity scales.  Some measure outright lying, others measure whether you are trying to present yourself in a good light; usually seen when done for job applications.  Still others look for people who are trying to look worse than they really are.  We see that a lot when folks are drug seeking, trying to get disability, or are trying to look legally insane in criminal cases.

    There are many clinical scales and sub-scales.  There is even a scale measuring overcontrolled hostility.  While the test can be hand scored, it takes forever and there is a risk of counting wrong or making arithmetic mistakes.  The best way to score this enormously complex test is by computer.

    There is no test that is foolproof.  As for background checks, every law enforcement agency  I ever consulted with does a thorough background check.  They run your fingerprints and vital statistics information through the National Crime Information system.  There is a current shortage of qualified officers because a lot of applicants wash out on the background check.  

    The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

    by Otteray Scribe on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:23:52 AM PST

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    •  So easily spoofed self reporting. (1+ / 0-)
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      We need better ways of screening. Or better ways of reposting problem officers.

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:27:01 AM PST

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      •  The MMPI-2 is pretty hard to spoof, (0+ / 0-)

        but it can be done.  Problem is that many psychologists are not adequately trained, and rely too heavily on the computer printout.  A lot depends on the skill and experience set of the psychologist whether they can get away with it.

        The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

        by Otteray Scribe on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:38:23 AM PST

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    •  I know you say they are complex but they really (0+ / 0-)

      are not.

      Anyone with a modicum of self awareness can easily avoid the contradictions set up in the test.

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:29:51 AM PST

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    •  As a holder of a security clearance, I took the (1+ / 0-)
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      MMPI every 5 years; I think in all I took it about 5 times.

      I also read that the control group for the original one was "single males of scandinavian origin in rural areas", or as Garrison Keillor would put it, "Norwegian bachelor farmers".

      I must have been normal relative to that control group...

      Just kidding, I think.

      Moderation in most things.

      by billmosby on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:37:47 AM PST

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      •  The original MMPI was first published (1+ / 0-)
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        in 1942,  There has never been a test so thoroughly studied by scholars all over the world. It has been translated into several different languages.  In the late 1980s, it was determined that much of the language in the old MMPI was archaic and younger people did not even know what some of the words meant because they are not in common use any more.  In 1989, the MMPI-2 was published, with a completely new approach to data collection and scoring.  

        More information here.

        The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

        by Otteray Scribe on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:43:49 AM PST

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        •  I took the first one in early 1986 and the last (1+ / 0-)
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          one in about 2001, but I can't recall seeing any big difference along the way. But if the MMPI was something that one could easily remember I suppose it wouldn't be quite as effective, would it....

          Moderation in most things.

          by billmosby on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 10:26:36 AM PST

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