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  •  Every time a maniac shoots up a school (2+ / 0-)
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    or a playground, or a park, or a shopping mall.  That number moves.  Obviously.  This will not go on forever.  Either the gun culture fixes its problem, or the public will.

    "Goodnight, thank you, and may your God go with you"

    by TheFern on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 01:38:45 PM PST

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    •  How is the murderer in any way, shape or form (0+ / 0-)

      the responsibility of innocent people?

      Try this: is there any other group you can say that statement about without diving head first into bigotry or total logical breakdown?

      Would you say "either the phone culture fixes its problem, or the public will" is a viable argument for warrantless wiretaps, in the wake of 9/11?

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 10:15:48 AM PST

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      •  The murderer kills the innocent people. (0+ / 0-)

        He is not the responsibility of the innocent people.  The abilitity for gun owners to disown the perpetrators of gun violence always amazes me.  I see the bumper stickers: "Gun control is putting two bullets through the same hole".  No.  Gun control is keeping guns out of the hands of people who would kill innocent people.  Something the gun culture has shown no interest in doing.  I'm sorry you feel victimized.  You are not.  The gun culture will not fix its problem.  Are we just supposed to wait to get shot?

        "Goodnight, thank you, and may your God go with you"

        by TheFern on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 10:28:30 PM PST

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        •  If you are so certain that you either have to (0+ / 0-)

          infringe on the rights of innocent Americans or get shot, then I would suggest leaving the US.....
          Or you can just drop the eye-rolling hyperbole.

          "disown the perps"
          It amazes you that the innocent have no responsibility for the actions of the guilty?
          I would hope you are consistent and take responsibility for knife murders & unarmed murders both of which are used in far more murders than the guns covered under the AWB.

          "I'm sorry you feel victimized"
          This from the person that claims that--unless other Americans have their liberties taken away--you will be shot......

          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

          by FrankRose on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:35:21 AM PST

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          •  Well this is certainly a reasonable argument. (0+ / 0-)

            I'm done discussing this with you.  I'm sure you feel the same.

            "Goodnight, thank you, and may your God go with you"

            by TheFern on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 03:53:55 PM PST

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