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  •  Not what the article says (6+ / 0-)
    Democratic proponents of filibuster reform emphasize that Reid does not yet have a final package. They are holding out hope that Reid can be persuaded to include the talking filibuster after a caucus debate.
    Much depends on my new Sen. Joe Donnelly (Blue Dog-IN), and on Baucus, Levin, and Pryor. I have called Donnelly's office several times, but gotten no reply.

    America—We built that!

    by Mokurai on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:17:25 AM PST

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    •  interesting nuclear option dynamic (1+ / 0-)
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      Sychotic1

      If Reid can't get agreement with Yertle, we may get stronger rules like the talking filibuster, because the nuclear option would only need 51 votes, which we seem to have.

      So Yertle doesn't really have much leverage other than the Senators' preference to avoid the nuclear option if possible.

      •  Nuclear option can come at any time (1+ / 0-)
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        That was the point of it before.  If McConnell doesn't keep his side of whatever bargain they strike, there can be a ruling by the chair that is upheld by a 51-vote majority.

        Requiring 41 votes to block rather than 60 to proceed, coupled with no filibuster on a motion to proceed, and fewer appointments subject to confirmation would actually go a long way.

        The scientific uncertainty doesn't mean that climate change isn't actually happening.

        by Mimikatz on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:58:02 AM PST

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        •  understood. It's about whip counts (1+ / 0-)
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          as Mokurai pointed out above.

          Although the rules can be changed at any time, getting 51 votes to do so is unlikely except on the session open.

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