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  •  Dammit, Harry (16+ / 0-)

    We need the talking filibuster.  Round up the votes and pass Udall's proposal.  None of this maybe-schmaybe stuff.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 12:38:24 PM PST

    •  Yes, after our experience in the last decade, the (4+ / 0-)
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      idea that we are going to cultivate and benefit from goodwill from Republicans by voluntarily giving up strategic advantages seems dubious.

      The GOP would not hesitate to use every advantage they can get.

      However, deeper in the article some Senators worry that if we eliminate the Senate filibuster with the 51 vote option, it may set a precedent that future GOP dominated Senates might use against us.  

      It is difficult to know if this is a fantasy or great wisdom. (A fantasy to think that future GOP Senators would still use similar restraint.)

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 12:42:56 PM PST

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      •  Straw man argument (3+ / 0-)
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        PorridgeGun, greeseyparrot, MPociask

        Fear of changing the rules because of what Republicans might do someday? Seriously?

        This coming from the party that kept it's "powder dry" and almost never used the filibuster when Republicans held the majority.

        Insanity. Democrats who vote against filibuster reform are endorsing gridlock. It's as if they'd rather not take a position on the hard stuff.

        Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

        by bear83 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 02:14:18 PM PST

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    •  Even if we DON'T have the votes... (4+ / 0-)
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      ...for filibuster reform, we still need to have it brought up for a vote.

      We must get all Pro-Filibuster Senators (like Chuck Schumer, D-NY) on record as being pro-gridlock.

      In short: "Demand an up-or-down vote on up-or-down votes".

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