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  •  To me, Democratic voters let the side down after (0+ / 0-)

    the 2008 victory. They should have been on the phones, in the streets as soon as the GOP hijinks started, and have demanded that the President's agenda go through . They let him down and emboldened the GOP to continue the mayhem, and this allowed a perception to arise that the President was  not up to it. How else to explain  a shift to  the other end of the spectrum in 2 years? They should have got his back, then

    "...stories of past courage can define that ingredient..... But they cannot supply courage itself. For this each man must look into his own soul." JFK Profiles in Courage " Ontario

    by ontario on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 10:48:22 AM PST

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    •  While I largely agree (2+ / 0-)
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      The National Democratic Party in 2009 and 2010 alowed populism to be largely seized by the Right during a national economic crisis - that is often a prescription for electoral defeat.

    •  We were tired after 8 years of Bush and then the (1+ / 0-)
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      fight to get Obama elected. We campaigned our hearts out.
      I had to explain Obama to Democrats. Some were mad at me for not voting for Hillary. I had to listen to insults from fellow Democrats about Obama being an empty suit. It got ugly.

      I still maintained an interest and participated in politics but boy was I tired of all of it.

      What I learned was that the non-presidential election years were really the most important. I still say that to everyone.

      But you ignore all the nasty voter disenfranchisement that has been going on much longer than Obama. I saw it happening in 2007 when low income families were enticed into loans they couldn't really afford. When the mortgages failed , they had to move. They  had to get their kids back in school and worry about things like driver's license updates later.

      In Ohio, the warning came with provisional votes and poorly trained poll workers. Many of us were treated like conspiracy theorists for questioning the vote count in 2004. I am more convinced today that Rove had a hand in Bush's winning. Rove's behavior on Fox news when told Ohio went for Obama was strange. I expected him to say,"What do you mean we lost? But I thought we already took care of this like in 2004". He sure worked hard to disenfranchise voters. He wasted a lot of GOP money. Now look at Virginian and tell me if things aren't getting crazier?

      •  Yeah, we were tired. (1+ / 0-)
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        And complacent only-vote-during-presidential-years voters sure dropped the ball big time.  But there is very little an individual voter can do in the face of machine politics that kow tows to the beltway.  I remember the vividly disheartening feeling of being resoundingly ignored by Dem pols.  I almost didn't vote myself in 2010 because I was so exasperated by Democratic leadership -- and that is not complacency, it is despair.  I started to believe that trope about how "all politicians are the same so it doesn't matter."  You work your ass off to elect a president and have 59 senators and a majority in the House and they did jack shit with it.  Gets me mad all over again just thinking about it.  And here I am stuck with Guano Lady...again.

        "The opposite of faith is not doubt. It's certainty."

        by Simul Iustus et Peccator on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 01:52:32 PM PST

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