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  •  I am not disputing that some doctors (2+ / 0-)
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    do terrible things.  Some are psychiatrists and some are not.  But.  That does not mean that ALL psychiatrists are evil greedy genocidal racists -- which is precisely what Scientology and its offshoots CCHR & Narconon does claim.  

    •  Oh, well, if that's the case then off with their (0+ / 0-)



      It's clear, even today, "scientists" serve the needs of those in power. Rarely will anyone stand up and be a target for ridicule and discipline or loss of employment. But this standard is separated by 100+ yrs of social evolution.  At the time the Nazi's came to power, no one questioned these actions and would see them as morally just because those they were experimenting on were "inferior".

      "Science was never wrong", mentality.  

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 06:11:51 PM PST

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      •  You're rebutting something I also rebut (4+ / 0-)
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        which is the idea of absolute faith in rational empiricism which can easily become an arm of the state when the state is corrupt. That's true. That is not because there's something fundamentally wrong with rational empiricism per se. This is because there's something wrong with certain nations, and more so, the people within those nations who misuse the ideas of rational empiricists (what you are calling "scientists.")

        Did you know, for example, that Nazis took many Jewish Scientists into labs to study how to better kill Jews? This is well-documented, and it was no fault of these Scientists, but clearly of those who were forcing them through starvation and torture and other means to do this work. A beautiful and yet haunting firsthand account of this is the book "The Periodic Table" by Primo Levi, an Italian-born Jewish Scientist who later committed suicide due to his internment.

        Or consider someone like Oppenheimer, who created the atomic bomb only to later join forces with Einstein and others to forcefully denounce the atomic bomb, by then in the hands of Cold War players.

        It is vital to not confuse who is exploiting whom in any given situation.

        Science is a neutral force. Power, however, is not.

        Scientologists prey on peoples' fear of misused power and use it to instill another dominant power: that of Scientology. Often they do this by means which don't even permit people to see that they are Scientology-backed. To me, that's profoundly amoral and a great problem.

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        by mahakali overdrive on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 07:14:11 PM PST

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        •  And the legacy of fears of being overcome (3+ / 0-)
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          by Science in the wrong hands has literally been on human minds since the story of Prometheus.

          There's nothing new about a "fear of Science," and Scientologists (who claim to be a better form of rational empiricists -- look at their name) know this so well that they've chosen to specifically exploit this fear, which is as age-old as a fear of the dark.

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          by mahakali overdrive on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 07:17:14 PM PST

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