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  •  It does make me wonder about the (0+ / 0-)

    treatment of prisoners by our enemies.

    I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

    by Gentle Giant on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 01:40:23 PM PST

    •  You should have wondered about that before. (4+ / 0-)

      It's not a picnic for the men, nor are they not sexually abused/raped/humiliated.

      "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness" -Annie Savoy (Bull Durham)

      by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 01:54:45 PM PST

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      •  and trust me it's worse now than before Abu Ghraib (2+ / 0-)
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        our people will be treated as we were seen to treat "enemy combatants."

        The policy change that caused us to redefine POWs marks us as a savage and renegade nation.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 02:47:14 PM PST

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    •  What about the women (2+ / 0-)
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      of the French Resistance and the British women who parachuted in to enemy territory during WWII?

    •  US women have become POWs for over 80 years. (3+ / 0-)

      So you wondered about the combat role most likely to result in being a POW, right?   Fighter pilots ring a bell.

      If Israeli women can be in combat roles with the potential enemy being some very nasty people.  See -- Syria.  

      Then the US can handle it just fine.

      The amount of sexism on this thread is embarrassing.  

      •  I was thinking more along the lines (0+ / 0-)

        of the status of women in our "enemies'" own societies and how that might equate to how female prisoners would be viewed by enemies from those cultures.

        The Geneva Conventions should never have been violated or put at risk. Yes, there has always been abuse in some quarters, but now there is little reason for restraint.

        That isn't a sexist viewpoint. The reality is genders are viewed differently in cultures around the globe. Ignoring that in the name of not being sexist would be a mistake.

        I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

        by Gentle Giant on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 05:27:19 PM PST

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      •  "The amount of sexism on this thread is (0+ / 0-)

        embarrassing."

        Well said.

        Fast forward a couple hundred years in the future where people will look back at some the "manly-men" knuckledraggers who complain about this shit and they will be rightly looked down upon as the disgusting neanderthals they are.

        I really wish I had been born 500 years from now. Human society is still so primitive and sad.

        And it improves so, so slowly.

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