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  •  This is a big issue for me too. (5+ / 0-)

    I don't know if you realize this, Eric, but today's women are held to much tougher physical standards than male soldiers in WWII. And those soldiers did just fine in combat.

    It is really, at bottom, a question of putting people where their ability can take them. For you, that means women have to be physically identical to men. For me and many others, it means that women must be physically able to participate in combat. They are.

    Women have fought, with or without sanction, in every recorded war, including current wars where they're not "allowed" to fight. (As if they're not going to defend themselves and their comrades.) They've done well, and there is no reason to hold up this magical "but they're not men" ideal--you don't have to be a man to be a good combat soldier.

    I'm amazed by people's courage and kindness in the face of everything and life.

    by LaraJones on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 02:24:03 PM PST

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    •  falses equivlance (1+ / 0-)
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      We were sending those guys over to die.  Ill be the first to admit that I probably would not hold up to the WWII standards for PT.  Not PT test, but the PT they did.  

      We had VERY low standards for entry and staying in the military in WWII.  The standard for staying alive and surviving was a bit higher.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 06:12:11 PM PST

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    •  250k US soldiers died in WWII and 58k in Vietnam. (0+ / 0-)

      Right now the combined total for Iraq and Afghanistan is around 10k. That's progress. We're going in the right direction, we do NOT want to go back to the old way of doing things.

      You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

      by Eric Stratton on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 02:56:03 PM PST

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