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  •  There are quite likely to actually be times (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Stratton

    particularly in urban combat environments, where a soldier will have to pull themselves up and over a wall or pull themselves up using the hand-rail of a damaged stairwell, ect.

    It's relevant.

    If they start raising any of those standards just to exclude women, that's a problem.

    "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

    by JesseCW on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 02:42:34 PM PST

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    •  Sure, it's relevant (0+ / 0-)

      whether a soldier can pull herself up over an obstacle.

      Watch a woman actually do that, though, and you'll see that her movements bear almost no resemblance to a pull-up or chin-up.

      Pectoral and bicep strength might be good proxies for men's overall upper body capability, but they're all but irrelevant for women. If you want to know if a woman can climb over a wall, you want to know about her leg, core, and hand strength. Flexibility might be a plus too. Really, though, it's easiest just to see if she can climb over a wall. It's not like the military is short on obstacle courses.

      "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

      by kyril on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 03:28:55 PM PST

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