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  •  I want abortion to be safe, legal, acessable (27+ / 0-)

    I don't give a shit if its rare.

    One of the biggest reasons, second only to the terrorism that abortion providers face each and every day of their lives trying to provide needed access to women's healthcare, is this notion that we should be pro-choice but slightly ashamed at the same time.

    How supported would you feel if your side of the argument was hobbled with "I'm x, but"?

    I'd feel like I was in a place where I had to live my life with one eye open all the time, and worrying sometimes if I didn't have to be concerned that I couldn't necessarily count on all the people saying they were my allies being there when the shit hit the fan.

    Abortion should be safe, legal, and accessable. I don't give a damn about rare.

    I don't give a rats ass if a woman has one abortion or ten. It's none of my business. It's between a woman and her doctor. That's it.

    The biggest anchor the pro-choice movement has around it's neck is getting baited and concern trolled into being pro-choice with eyes afixed to navels or "I"m pro-choice, but" phrasing.

    Safe, Legal, and Rare is a con. Safe and Legal, period.

    You can't fight such a battle, any political battle really, with one hand tied behind your back trying to placate people who aren't even acting in good faith most of the time. Movement Conservatism is rife with issue after issue where they need the opposition to be concerned with their objections and concerns while never giving a shit about anybody else's agenda but their own.

    I feel ashamed when I see providers in shadows like on Rachel's show.

    In my opinion, one of the greatest triumphs of the far Right is how often they get non-conservatives in a position to be half-defending half-apologising for doing the right thing. On everything from progressive taxation to the social safety net to a woman's safe and accessable ability to have an abortion.

    When I see abortion providers in the shadows, I know that Movement Conservatism is a threat to this nation, not just wrong on the merits and the facts. If you don't kowtow tow the line, you don't get to vote freely, hell, you might not even get to live in some cases.

    You end up with providers in the shadows when they feel that not only are their lives threatened, but the abortion debate is being fought on the defensive or with apologia to the concerns of those who don't give a rats fuck if a woman dies on her back with a hack holding a bloody coathhanger over her dead body.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 05:33:53 PM PST

    •  To be blunt (18+ / 0-)

      the only thing the Right understands is the (political) bloody nose. They do what they do until it (politically) hurts too much to continue.

      And, when they look at Progressivism, Non-conservatism, whatever you want to call the great masses outside of their ranks, they expect us to sit down and negotiate our posiitions away while they give up nothing.

      And they are getting worse and worse as time passes, not better.

      I need to be a better pro-choice supporter. I need to be louder in defense of women's rights and healthcare choices. I need to do more.

      Those pixelated faces make me feel like a failure.

      And they should.

      The stakes are literally, black people can't vote freely, and women have to ask a wingnut permission to control their own bodies, and poor, elderly, and sick people die untreated if the Right keeps on getting to face people who are hobbled with burdens of concerns they wouldn't adopt in the policy debate reverse in a million years.

      I find the older I get, the more hardline I get with dealing with the Right on issue after issue because there is no bottom to Movement Conservatism.

      I watched Hilary Clinton get heckled and harassed for doing her job today on C-Span, and I was sick to my stomach that in 2012 we are still dealing with Arkansas Project level shit from the Right.

      They should be (politically) afraid to be the way they are.

      It's the only way things are going to change, and the shit that keeps breaking our hearts will stop.

      Randall Terry should be in pixelation, not an abortion provider. Instead, their are conservative media celebrities, and doctors live in fear for their lives.

      I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

      by LeftHandedMan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 05:46:35 PM PST

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      •  "Randall Terry should be in pixelation ... " (7+ / 0-)

        ... not an abortion provider."

        I wish I had a thousand recs to give you.

        Many years ago, a friend of mine was playing drums at a Jesus festival for an old friend of his who plays Christian music. They were in their trailer when a man came in to talk to my friend's friend. They clearly knew each other pretty well. But my friend said that he felt a darkness fall over the space and he sensed the presence of evil.

        After the man left, he asked his friend, "Who was that 'Randy' you were talking to?"

        I'm sure you can guess.

        Jon Husted is a dick.

        by anastasia p on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 07:57:55 PM PST

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      •  Right on, (1+ / 0-)
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        right fuckin' on.  If I had to make the choice to have an abortion, I don't know what I'd do.  But I don't want to wring my hands because other people are making a choice I'm personally unsure of.  Fuck this rare crap, as you said.  Abortion needs to be safe and legal and as many women who want it can have it as many times as they like.  Because I feel like I'm setting women back when I imply the antis have some sort of moral ground, and playing into slut shaming.

        "I don't want a unicorn. I want a fucking pegasus. And I want it to carry a flaming sword." -mahakali overdrive

        by Silvia Nightshade on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 09:58:37 AM PST

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    •   Exactly (9+ / 0-)
      When I see abortion providers in the shadows, I know that Movement Conservatism is a threat to this nation, not just wrong on the merits and the facts. If you don't kowtow tow the line, you don't get to vote freely, hell, you might not even get to live in some cases.

      It's like a resurgence of Puritanism. Really, wasn't that five hundred years ago now? Why do good people stand by and essentially let this small minority run roughshod over our entire society?  

      It is time to #Occupy Media.

      by lunachickie on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 08:01:41 PM PST

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    •  100+% agreement. n/t (4+ / 0-)

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Jan 23, 2013 at 08:12:34 PM PST

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