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  •  Because the wealthy pay the obscene bills (21+ / 0-)

    that campaigns rack up.

    Follow the money.

    What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

    by commonmass on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 10:27:46 AM PST

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      •  Well, yes and no. But there is this: (4+ / 0-)
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        The Obama team has been brilliant at getting the kind of true grass-roots small donations that the GOP started to get in the late 70's and early 80's when their base included people who maybe knew at some level that the GOP wasn't for them but at least they hated abortion and gays and Yankees as much as they did.

        When I say "follow the money" it's not just the big donors.

        What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

        by commonmass on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 10:39:14 AM PST

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        •  The Direct Mail Pitch was (7+ / 0-)

          a profit center for various conmen like Richard Viguerie, who pretty much used the framing devices which were coming out of the think tanks to scare old ladies into to thinking that Eldridge Cleaver was going to move in next door.

          Frankly...this was a pure profit center made up of phony organizations which were basically mail drops, which morphed to even bigger profit centers which traded in mailing lists.  

          By the way, the Obamas used the small donor strategy which was another invocation of a little campaign which began when Joe Trippi posted THE BAT on the the Dean for America Page in 2003.  

          Yeah, the Republicans have always been able to scam small donors....but they never really touched the Dean organization for generating the kind of excitement Trippi pulled off with THE BAT.

          •  I would say that you are correct. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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            What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

            by commonmass on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:01:07 AM PST

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          •  When we write the history (18+ / 0-)

            Howard Dean and his people, especially Trippi, deserve far more credit than they usually get, and than "also rans" who get knocked out of the Presidential race following the NH primary usually deserve. I also consider his willingness to move on from that to DNC Chair to rank with Jimmy Carter's post-Presidential activities (and possibly Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth) as examples of turning defeat into life-affirming activity.

            •  One thing I ask myself (8+ / 0-)

              was why Trippi made so many crappy ads for Howard, and such great ones for Jerry Brown, before he became a Fox Democrat.

              By the way, the first BAT raised  $7.6 million dollars in June 2003.  Trippi had a lot of great ideas, including allowing the organization to build from the bottom up.  And the Dean people DID what Kerry people failed to do. They continued their activist ways and worked themselves up the chain of Democratic Organizations in various state parties.

              Howard is no flaming liberal.  His vision for rebuilding the party on the basis of stealing organizational principles the Christian Coalition stole from Saul Alinsky might have saved us from the coming debacle we face in 2014...

              it would be nice if we could actually articulate to people Democratic Principles instead of having a strategy which requires Republicans to screw up.  

              •  Howard Dean is a true American moderate. (8+ / 0-)

                He's a cross between liberal social beliefs and conservative, common-sense fiscal ones. I worked on his campaign in 2004, and I'm a damned proud Socialist. He hired Trippi, not the other way around. If Trippi goes where the dough is, so be it.

                Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

                by orlbucfan on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:45:46 AM PST

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                •  This is interesting. Not at all meant (2+ / 0-)
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                  to be contentious, I would never consider a 'fiscal hawk' to be a liberal, much less a socialist.

                  As a former federal civilian employee and military spouse, I cannot fathom that many folks in the progressive community accept that we make virtually no cuts to the bloated defense department budget.  That's been a real puzzle to me.

                  BTW, I like Dean a lot, too.  He's too conservative (or moderate) for me to support again, but I look back at my days in "two" DFA chapters, very fondly.

                  If a Grand Bargain is struck, we're going to need a Dennis Kucinich to restore the nation's finances, and any semblance of a decent standard of living for the majority of Americans.  :-)  Dennis may get his day, yet!

                  A lot of folks seem to forget that the first day of this month, 1.5-1.7 Trillion Dollars of Discretionary Spending cuts went into effect as a result of the Budget Control Act.

                  Probably in another 6 months to a year, the effect of some of these cuts will be quite noticeable.  And undoubtedly cause great difficulty, for many.

                  Just read yesterday that one of the first of the Medical Device firms sent out notices to hospitals, etc., that they will pass on the new "surcharge" that was levied on them, as part of Medicare reform.  

                  Kaiser News, etc., reporting that these providers and entities are saying that they will pass this expense on to the consumer.

                  Namaste.

                  Mollie

                  “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

                  by musiccitymollie on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 03:20:33 PM PST

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              •  Jerry Brown pioneered the "$100 donation" in 1992 (0+ / 0-)

                using the (then) state-of-the-art technology of a toll-free 800 number and credit cards.

                Have you noticed?
                Politicians who promise LESS government
                only deliver BAD government.

                by jjohnjj on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 06:39:53 PM PST

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          •  I'd say Obama's 2008 campaign.... (0+ / 0-)

            ....was essentially Dean 2.0. They copied what Dean's campaign did right and jettisoned that which did not work. Dean didn't really expect to get as popular as he did and when he shot ahead in the polls, he wasn't really prepared. Obama and his team, on the other hand, had everything planned out. They covered the various contingencies. Even when everyone thought Clinton had the nomination wrapped up, Obama's team was planning things out, delegate by delegate. Which was how they took the nomination. Innovation, yes, which is what Dean's campaign had. But, with the experience of hindsight and also great attention to details.

    •  They ARE wealthy. nt (1+ / 0-)
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