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  •  It's perfectly ok that Maine and Nebraska do this. (2+ / 0-)
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    They are small states with 4-5 electoral votes with 1 of them possibly going to the candidate that did not win the statewide vote overall, such as Obama winning Omaha (CD 2) in 2008.

     Obama got 41.6% of the popular vote of Nebraska and 20% of it's Electoral Votes. No big deal there.

    There was talk that Mitt Romney could have won ME-2 this last election. If he had, he would have gotten 25% of Maine's EV, after winning a little higher than 41% of the state's total votes.

     What is truly disgusting, and I hope everyone from Rachel Maddow to Jon Stewart to CNN picks up on is that the RNC right now is trying to push electoral reforms in blue states (VA, PA, MI, WA, FL) gerrymandered to benefit the Republicans where they could lose the popular vote in a presidential election but still send OVER 50% of their electoral votes to the Republican candidate.

     The Virginia plan is even more egregious because it says screw the popular vote entirely and send the last 2 EV's that belong to the Senate representatives (elected by popular vote) and give it to whoever wins the most CDs.

    Obama got 51.1% of the VA vote in 2012. Under the VA proposal, he would have gotten 23.1% of the EV (3 out of 13). See the issue?

     In my opinion, this is the worst assault on the right to vote (and have it mean something) this country has seen in decades. It's the most undemocratic proposal I have ever seen. Republicans are showing their true colors here.

    •  And what's the Nationwide Electoral Vote (0+ / 0-)

      Initiative?   A plan the Republicans see as an effort to insure that the Democratic constituencies of urban poor and coastal rich dictate to the rest of the country who is President .   The Electoral College was a bargain made with the small states to make sure that won't happen, either.  

      Look at this map, and tell me if it appears to be fair.   Would it be any fairer if the blue areas got to call the tune as to who is President?

      Call it "racist", if you want, but what they are proposing is perfectly permissible under the Constitution.   The overreaching of the Nationwide Electoral Vote Initiative effort sparked this backlash.   Now we have to deal with it.  


      Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause. - Gandhi

      by SpamNunn on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 01:12:08 PM PST

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      •  That map is missing 3 EV's, and regardless... (0+ / 0-)

        I don't think the constitution envisioned a system where a candidate could win over half the vote and receive less than a quarter of it's Electors.

         I suspect it would be an interesting battle in the courts, and the GOP would come out looking very bad.

        •  It actually allows for that, if that's what the (0+ / 0-)

          majority of the States provided for in allocating their electoral votes as provided for under the Constitution.   The geniuses who knew this and used it when pushing the National Electoral Vote Initiative should have recognized this sword cuts both ways before trying to replace the Electoral College with a national popular vote.  

          PS:  It ain't my map.   I borrowed it to make a Blue/Red CD point.  

          Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause. - Gandhi

          by SpamNunn on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 02:35:51 PM PST

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