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    I did forget about Eisenhower ending the Korean war.

    Vietnam ended while Ford was President, only after a Democratic Congress cut off war funding, and after Nixon secretly expanded the war while claiming to deescalate. I can't credit Nixon for that.

    We don't know what might have happened in Iraq had Bush or another Republican remained President since some in the military were calling for a continuation of the war. That's a stretch. Obama withdrew on the exact time frame he promised during the campaign.

    My view is that most Presidents did more harm than good, and the list of those who had major positive accomplishments in both domestic and foreign policy in one term is very short.

    After Lincoln and FDR, it's pretty hard to come up with Presidents who were much better than Obama. His regulation of wall street is stricter than Teddy Roosevelt's. He's already better than Carter on energy. Johnson did more domestically than Obama so far but killed too many in Vietnam. And half of Obama's first term was spent fixing the messes left behind by Clinton, such as DADT, lending deregulation, and shipping American's manufacturing sector overseas. So, I'm at a loss for why Obama isn't at least in the top five or six best.

    •  Too easy to view past Presidents in terms of (1+ / 0-)
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      today's issues.  Teddy Roosevelt's trust busting was far more aggressive than Obamas, and his business regulation needs to be evaluated in terms of the times. TR did not get to stand on FDRs shoulders.

      TR's support for conservation is probably comparable to Obama's support for addressing global warming, but let's see what actually gets done.

      Non-Lincoln, non-FDR Candidates for the better than Obama list -- now, at least, maybe not at the end of his second term:

      Eisenhower, TR, Woodrow Wilson, Washington, Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Reagan, LBJ -- even with Vietnam, maybe even Harry Truman.

      It is, admittedly, difficult to rank Presidents because each faces a different set of challenges, and you can only rise to the occasions you face.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 08:31:36 PM PST

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      •  Even so (3+ / 0-)
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        TR had a few high profile trust busting cases, but many argue there was little of significance beyond that. He did far less than William Jennings Bryan would have.

        I take strong exception to Wilson and Jackson but that's another conversation. Thanks for this one.

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