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  •  Any chance Levin will be joining him? (3+ / 0-)
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    betelgeux, askew, GayHillbilly

    Levin (D-MI) is 78 1/2 y.o. and would be 86 upon completion of an additional term; 5 Years more than Harkin.

    This is something I would never have bring up before.  I have ardently supported Senator Levin since 1978.  But his behavior during the late filibuster charade was disgraceful.  Pathetic.  Infamous.

    •  I think I recall he said he was running (0+ / 0-)

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    •  I'm hoping he retires (0+ / 0-)

      and a good progressive like Rep. Gary Peters or even former Gov. Jennifer Granholm runs to replace him.

      Student, Proud Progressive, Science Nerd, and Skeptic. Born and raised in CT-03. "Teach a man to reason, and he'll think for a lifetime."--Phil Plait

      by betelgeux on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 01:09:14 PM PST

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    •  I really loved Levin (2+ / 0-)
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      betelgeux, GoUBears

      up until he co-sponsored that shameful indefinite detention addition to the defense appropriation in 2011. And then followed it up with this filibuster nonsense.

      If we're losing Dem. Sens to old age, why can't it be him instead of Harkin, who is easily one of the best, nicest people in the Senate?

      if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 06:13:12 PM PST

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    •  Levin (1+ / 0-)
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      betelgeux

      I've been largely tolerant of the guy, because he's pretty reliable on some issues, but when it comes to foreign policy and national security, you never quite know where he's going to be.  I'd hardly call him a hawk, but on domestic security, he's not where I want him to be most of the time.  I've really been waiting for him to retire.  

      BTW, whoever said that he is more liberal than Granholm is crazy.  She wasn't allowed to be anywhere as liberal as she wanted to be with the Michigan Senate blocking just about anything she ever wanted, and the so-called Democratic Speaker of the House (Andy Dillon) barely able to hide his contempt for her.  With friends like Bishop and Andy Dillon, who was supposedly in her party, she didn't need any other enemies.  In the Senate, I'd trust her to be a very solid liberal vote.  

      That said, I don't get the feeling she ever wants to see Michigan, again, and I could completely understand.  The inherent sexism in most of the critiques of her, right and left, have been disgusting.  While it would have been nice to see her fight for more of what she wanted, I understand why she didn't given that this has got to be one of the most bought-and-paid for state senates in the country despite it being a blue state.

      Anyway, I wouldn't lose any sleep if Levin decided to retire is what I'm saying, and that's putting it nicely.

      •  Granholm (0+ / 0-)

        I never got the impression that Granholm was resentful toward Michigan.  I think she just followed an opportunity.  There was really no where for her to go politically in MI unless Levin was to retire (which I doubt he will).  If Levin was to retire, I really hope Granholm would consider returning to MI and running for the senate.  I also trust that she would be a solidly liberal vote.    

        •  Didn't Mean (1+ / 0-)
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          I didn't mean for it to come across that I believe she was a jobber as governor and would leave us in a hot minute, rather, I could completely understanding if she never wanted to come back given how she was treated.  I always knew it was going to be hard to govern a state whose economy was createring before the the financial crash of 2008; what I never quite expected was the kind of vitrial released against her by her opponents, and even more to the point, how willing Dems were to throw her under the bus and even a lot of veiled sexism in their critque.  Can't tell you how many Dems I knew that engaged in this kind of stuff and it really disappointed me.

          I'd vote for her for sure if she ever wanted to run for anything, and I think she still has enough good will with time removed from her term that she'd almost certainly be able to capture a Senate seat, but I could completely understand her if she never wanted to see this place again.

          •  Oh, I see (0+ / 0-)

            I completely agree....Granholm was treated poorly.  It was so disappointing to see Dems throw her under the bus during the 2010 governors race.  Fieger (during his "I might run" period of 2010) was the only Dem who had the guts to stand up for Granholm and point out the difficult economic and political circumstances she faced.  There was a brief moment where I actually wanted him to be the nominee again.

            Granholm is definitely a strong candidate who I think could overcome her low approval ratings as governor.  

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